I remember working my first retail job in New York. I was working selling computers for a crappy, fly-by-night storefront, and it was my first time working in a truly multiethnic environment. We were talking about college, and one of my black male coworkers remarked about my alma mater: “They gave you a degree? Man, they must be giving out degrees to just about everyone these days!” Everyone burst out in laughter.
I was shocked. I didn’t know what to say. I was out of words before the war of words even began.
One of my black female coworkers quickly shot in, “Well, Jamie [I think that was his name], they didn’t give one to you!” Everyone laughed again. Once everyone dispersed, my female coworker said, “Byron, you gotta defend yourself. Put him in his place!”
Coming from a monoethnic background (haha…white), I later learned that many African Americans play a game when growing up called “Playing the Dozens.” In the game, people throw playful insults back and forth in front of a public audience. It helps develop wit, quickness, and confidence. It explained a bit about how easily Jamie owned me, and how easily my female coworker shot him down.
Just last week, King mentioned another game that some in the African American community play. It’s called “Working on Your Mack.” In this game, boys and girls playfully exchange flirts and rejections. I’ll reference King’s words:
In my neighborhood (African Ameican) growing up, there was an old tradition of “workin’ on your mack” which was kind of a game. Every guy tried out all the most ridiculous lines on the girls—it didn’t matter if you liked them or not. The guys threw out the macks, the girls always shot them down, and it was kind of a joke that everyone enjoyed. Guys thinking of creative and clever ways to mack up the girls, and girls thinking of even more clever ways to turn down the guys. But since it was a game nobody took the put-downs personally. You were going to get a “no” either way and this annulled any pressure . Every now and then, a guy came up with something so creative, so smooth, so dap, that everybody had to give him props. But success was rare and hard to come by.
But by time we were in our mid- teens, we had been soundly rejected so many times and so badly, that we really were all quite immune to it. If a girl said “no”, it was “no,” but we didn’t really sweat it, because it was just like in our little game, you try again with something better later. Also, the girls all got used to guys asking them out and throwing pure BS at them. In the end, the boys turned out bolder, and more confident, and the girls ended up wiserm confident, and knew how to deal with male BSers.
I think games like this are great. As King later mentioned in the thread, games teach us a lot that we need in life. In this case, “playing the dozens” and “working on your mack” both achieve the same goal–they teach confidence, quickness on one’s feet, and fast creativity. Jamie owned me because he was faster than me, and my female coworker owned him because she was faster than him. We have all this talk in the AA blogosphere about PUA, canned lines, negging, AMOGing, and all these other dirty tricks. This kind of negative thinking appeals to some Asian men because our culture doesn’t have the games in adolescence that build personal speed and display personality. How great it would be if we could somehow change our culture to incorporate similar games in order to help our young men and women today? These games wouldn’t just help Asian men either. They could help Asian women develop similar speed and performance ability to stand up for themselves as well.
What do you all think?
(I actually had a lot more to say about this. I was going to talk about stereotypical sales styles and flirting styles among Asian American men, etc., but I’ll just open the floor for more enlightened contributors.)


bigWOWO Rating: Asian American Gold

