No shades of grey

Aight, I went on a camping trip before the Charlottesville protests, and I came back to find that someone died at the protests and the world is even angrier at Trump for doing nothing for two days. Four business executives, including Under Armour, Intel, and Merck, quit Trump’s manufacturing council. David Duke tweeted to Trump, “I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists,” which is completely false–it was actually the radical leftists, not the White Supremacists, who put Trump in office. It seems like everyone’s got it backwards.

Clearly the president (I can’t believe I’m calling that moron the president) should have spoken up immediately against the heinous act of driving a car into a crowd of people and then trying to run. You can’t equivocate here; one person from one side violently attacked the other, not the other way around. Yes, the Left has incited violence too (Wenjian Liu, Tim Tai, Richard Spencer), but not in this case. Violence is wrong. Murder is wrong. Trump should’ve done the right thing. Trump should’ve done the only thing. Yet for the 445th time, he dropped the ball.

In any case, I’ve noticed that everyone–everyone—seems to be ignoring shades of grey. It’s not just in this case. Check out the Google engineer who was fired for his manifesto–did anyone on your Facebook feed read what he actually wrote? He wrote that Google culture didn’t accept different viewpoints, and then he was fired for expressing a different viewpoint. He didn’t say women were incapable of being engineers. He didn’t say men were smarter. He did say that men and women are biologically different, but that’s true. He spoke out against political correctness, and then he was fired for being politically incorrect. David Brooks wrote a good column about it here.

It’s the same deal with the racism stuff. Not everyone who is against Black Lives Matter is a White Supremacist. Because Black Lives Matter is itself a racist organization, most people aren’t behind them. There are LOTS of pro-Black people who hate what they’re doing. There are more good pro-Black people against BLM than for it. These are people who employ common sense and live with dignity. Conversely, not all Alt-Right people are part of the KKK. There’s an obvious difference between advocating for the destruction of other races as neo-nazis do, and simply being proud of one’s southern heritage, which lots of people in the south do. There’s an obvious difference between someone who supports Whiteness for the sake of countering political correctness and someone whose support for Whiteness is a real form of racism. Instead of taking an opportunity to have a real conversation on race, the country is moving further and further to the extremes.

Anyway, I’m still on vacation. Man, did I pick the best year to go on vacation! Then again, it’s the nonsense from the Far Left and Far Right that prompted me to take this vacation in the first place…

43 thoughts on “No shades of grey

  1. I think it’s a very interesting question: does the alt-right wingnuts also use google and technology created in “liberal” Silicon Valley and sometimes leftist Bay Area? Particularly in this day and age of hashtag-activism where politics and business are entangled and embroiled in ways that are unclear where to boycott or support.

    The one thing in the CNN article that I can’t believe Damore doesn’t see daily at Google are East Asian and South Asian women, because certainly I can guarantee Google has tons of women programmers and tech managers at all levels.

    In the tech companies I’ve worked at, I’ve known plenty of Asian females in STEM. Primarily immigrants, but dozens of native born American ones. It’s unfortunate that USofA education system doesn’t create more women STEM workers, but that’s just the culture.

    Thus, Damore’s ethnocentrism and parochial experiences definitely show thru in the article and the “interview” because what he says might be limited to his specific demographic, but it’s definitely not true in the tech sectors I’ve worked at, from aerospace to embedded consumer IoT devices.

  2. Also, Damore looks like a stupid entitled millennial who thinks the world revolves around his feelings and beliefs – exactly the same as the SJWs’ identity politics and campus safe spaces.

    Google and employers don’t owe him a thing except for a paycheck and market adjusted benefits packages. Companies aren’t out to play around like social engineering college admissions people; they’re in it for the bottom line.

    Politics and religion are always off limits at work. While the corporate shenanigans are “we’re like family,” the truth is it’s about the project task at hand or just small talk and never politics.

    I’ve been told this before many times: if you don’t fit the company culture then you should find some place that you do.

  3. Our freedom of speech is slowly being eroded day by day. Our very words will be heavily regulated in the near future.

  4. BigWOWO,

    I can’t blame you because like most Americans, it sounds like you get your information primarily from CNN, NYT, Washington Post, or other left-wing propaganda outlets.

    Are you familiar with the attack on Reginald Denny? Reginald Denny was pulled from his truck and nearly beaten to death by an angry mob.

    I think this whole incident about the tragic death of this women may have some Trayvon Martin, Duke LAX, etc. overtones in the sense that the media wants to run with their narrative before all the facts are out.

    Maybe this is terrorism. The public does not know yet because information has not been released. Here we see a video if the car being assaulted by a mob, who would presumably try to kill the driver. Some video shows the car being hit before it runs into anyone.

    See here: https://twitter.com/LucidHurricaneX/status/896857214136311808

  5. For some reason my earlier comment did not go through – maybe because there was a link and it was marked spam? Sorry if double post.

    BigWOWO,

    I can’t blame you because like most Americans, it sounds like you get your information primarily from CNN, NYT, Washington Post, or other left-wing propaganda outlets.

    Are you familiar with the attack on Reginald Denny? Reginald Denny was pulled from his truck and nearly beaten to death by an angry mob.

    I think this whole incident about the tragic death of this women may have some Trayvon Martin, Duke LAX, etc. overtones in the sense that the media wants to run with their narrative before all the facts are out.

    Maybe this is terrorism. The public does not know yet because information has not been released. Here we see a video if the car being assaulted by a mob, who would presumably try to kill the driver. Some video shows the car being hit before it runs into anyone.

  6. Google this to see part of the video the media does not want you to see:

    24/ this video from a different angle clearly shows this mob was armed and they had no problem using them, in fact, they started this

  7. “Not all Alt Right is part of the KKK.” Really?!! Are you that stupid? During the Weimar Republic in Germany when the Nazi party was starting out, the Alt Right was marching with Hitler. You need to reread your history book. The Alt Right are just a bunch of Sunday picnic bunch.
    The only thing I agree with you here is about the Black Lives Matter. They are clearly anti-white and destructive to the Black people.
    You need to make changes to this blog, however; you clearly got things wrong, Bryon.

  8. Shawn,

    Sorry about that, I just approved it. I have no idea why it went to spam, but hopefully you’re in the clear now.

    I couldn’t see anything in that video–she/he had the camera pointed at the wrong car. I didn’t see anyone–including Trump or David Duke–claim that the driver of the car was acting in self-defense.

    Siggy,

    During the Weimar Republic in Germany when the Nazi party was starting out, the Alt Right was marching with Hitler. You need to reread your history book.

    I could do that, but Alt Right isn’t in my history book because Richard Spencer coined the term and created the movement. He hadn’t even been born when Hitler was around. I’d be surprised if his father was around during that time.

  9. Who said that the Alt Right wasn’t fascist? I just don’t believe that. Go read the Daily Stormier and then tell me if they are not fascist. I don’t give a damn what they call themselves. Where do you get the proof that these punks aren’t Nazi? “Not all” Do they divide themselves into KKK and plain good American folks who are past conservative than Mitch.

  10. it was actually the radical leftists, not the White Supremacists, who put Trump in office

    Why not both?

  11. I pretty much agree with your whole post, BW. I can’t really tell Trump’s true motive for equivocating. It could really be incompetency in expressing a valid point (i.e. there are two sides full of knuckleheads), but it could also be that he either sympathizes with the white nationalists or feels that they are a significant part of his base.

    I don’t think that Trump will get a second term, and maybe the prediction that his ghost writer made will be true too (that Trump will quit before his term is over).

    On the subject of free speech and the demonstrators, I’ve found that Colin Kaepernick and others who boycott the national anthem are a perfect litmus test for hypocrisy and contradictory views. On the one hand, you have the rightards who lose their shit in various ways over the way he exercises his right to free speech. On the other hand, you have the leftards who will campaign to have people fired from their jobs over something they said, but decry the rightards who try to do the same to Kaepernick.

    The same could be said about flag burning.

  12. Also, there was some talk about the armed white nationalists that showed up at Virginia. The rightards were invoking the second amendment, but ask them if they’d support radical Islamists bringing weapons to a political rally and watch the stupidity pour forth from their mouths.

    I completely understand why you decided to take a break. I’ve also removed myself from most political discussions. You can’t argue with stupid people.

  13. The government been outsourcing/contracting censorship to private companies for decades now.

    What private organizations do with their human “resources” is entirely up to their corporate philosophy and mission statements.

    The only thing either spectrum can do is to boycott the organizations they don’t agree with.

  14. Yeah. There’s a lot of bullshit that employers can get away with in the U.S., specially in states with “at-will” employment. The one at the top of the list for me besides H1B1 abuse would be forced arbitration. That hardly gets any traction in the news though and it’s easy to see why.

  15. Notty,

    Sorry, I didn’t see your comment.

    There was an excellent article on moderates that David Brooks published yesterday:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/22/opinion/trump-moderates-bipartisanship-truth.html?_r=0

    I think this is pretty much it in a nutshell. Those on the extremes will not budge an inch. They won’t listen to logic, fact, or any of this other stuff that they deem “racist” (and that’s from both the left and right). It’s not really a discussion if one side refuses to listen.

  16. School is back in session! Let the indoctrination begin!

    Just a few quick things about that link:

    1. I see she started a Patreon. Doing quite well it looks like. Good for her.
    2. I don’t know if that dude who wrote the “article” is gay. He may not be, but I wouldn’t fault someone who thought he was. Not just because of the picture he posted. Not just because of the Pin-the-Tail ideas in his “article.” But because, man, that’s the way it always is. But no, seriously, even if he isn’t totally maxing out gayness on the spectrum, that “article” isn’t exactly radiating heterosexual tendencies. I agree with the commenter. Yeah, it’s technically ad-hominem and I don’t fault Jenn for calling that out, but truth is that the world looks entirely different if you simply aren’t interested in female attention. It makes it a lot easier to criticize those who are. And with that picture combined with that kind of rhetoric, it’s suspicious.
    3. Man, I’ve gotta keep the vacation thing going. I like not having to react!

  17. Setup your own Patreon, dude. I’m more than happy to contribute.

    At least it’s one step more dignified than all the AF mail-order brides that the Fangs were running a few years back. lol

    Also, I wonder how does the SJWs feel about non-conformist “URMs” like those “honor killings” in the UK awhile back? And the fact that homosexuality in some Muslim countries is execution level capital punishment?

    And what happens when “Gaysians” don’t toe the SJW corporate line on leftist leaning? What happens when there’s the Asian Milo Yiannopoulos doing the sieg heil? Link is NSFW!

    https://nextshark.com/ling-anderson-white-supremacy-loves-white-boys-youtube/

  18. Aardvark,

    Hey, thanks!

    I don’t really need money, which is why I’ve always been ad-free. But someday that may change, so I really appreciate the offer. 🙂

    As for the link you posted, I wish I could unsee that.

  19. Sorry, man. Some crazy people out there…

    I just think it’s fascinating there are so many different people out there and nobody can ever fit into any neat categories and boxes the social engineers would like to shove them into as one or the other.

    There’s now another round of “URMs and proportional representation” hot on the heels of the Harvard lawsuit; apparently there are lawmakers out there who think there aren’t enough URMs as doctors and that there are too many Asians. lol

  20. To me, the idea of people trying to make money out of their slacktivism is cynical.

  21. The above video which goes into race (and discusses Asians) is YouTube’s first censored video. It’s the video YouTube does NOT want you to see.

  22. Trump should have spoken up immediately and more strongly against the White Nationalists, since one of their members killed an unarmed protestor with his car and wounded many others.This was a terrorist act equivalent to the ISIS inspired acts we see in Europe. As president, he should have nailed that down FIRST. But Trump isn’t a very good politician or chess player. If he had simply done what has going to have to do anyway (condemn the White Supremacists) then he would have been able to put down the idea that he sympathizes with them. Instead, he couldn’t resist also striking out against the Left in the same breath. That was a foolish mistake. The Left had not killed anyone in this case. Is Trump sympathetic to White Supremacists? I can’t say for sure. I doubt if he is as sympathetic to them as the Left thinks he is.

    On the other hand, Trump pointed out that there was violence on both sides, WHICH THERE WAS. Antifa has been getting away with this for years now. Favorite tactics include
    1) Filling up water bottles 3/4 full and ten freezing them and throwing them at police
    2) Throwing Urine and Feces (sometimes in bottles or water balloons)
    3) Throwing rocks and dirt clods
    4) Using makeshift aerosol flamethrowers.

    And this list could go on. There are multiple photos of these things being done. They have been reported even my Liberal publications, so the facts about what Trump said were actually correct. He just needs to learn that you have to say things at the right time. Condemn the murder, and THEN afterward, bring up the other violence from the other side. And the left has to be willing to cop to their own violence, instead of trying to drown in out with accusations that it’s ALL and ONY the Fascists who are doing it.

  23. King,

    Cosign, Brother.

    One thing that I’ve noticed about Trump is that he got to where he was by criticizing and playing the color commentator. He’s never taken actual responsibility for anything, but instead has always played the third party commentator, critic, and insult provider. In this case, he should’ve shown leadership by INSTANTLY speaking out against the murder. It shouldn’t have required any real deliberation whatsoever–the murder took place, and the White Nationalists owned it.

    Like you said though, these extreme liberals are not 100% innocent. It looks like the violence that I had spoken about–Tim Tai among others–also took place here (I’m not sure that was out when I wrote the original post). He could’ve talked about the other side AFTER criticizing the murder. But he needed to realize that a MURDER took place. Cops can recover from hatemongering Liberals pelting them with feces and ice. People can’t recover from murder. Trump should’ve stood up and said something.

    But like you said, he’s not a good politician or chess player. It’s actually quite interesting to see that he hasn’t yet stepped into a leadership role, instead preferring to stand on the sides or communicate through Twitter.

  24. We all knew Trump is gonna be bad, but not at this level of incompetence and corruption. Nothing is being done by the executive branch about Texas’s flooding and FEMA doesn’t even have nominees yet to fill the top spots to manage the relief efforts. >.< #LowEnergy #Sad

  25. King wrote “This was a terrorist act equivalent to the ISIS inspired acts we see in Europe.”

    I’m not so sure.

    1) The driver had mental illness
    2) He ran into another car which hit the victim
    3) If it was an act of terrorism, why did he quit going forward?
    4) Was it more a matter of panicing? In the video I linked to above, his car was hit with clubs before he ran into the orther car, and then the windows were all smashed in after he backed up quickly. Why did the people have clubs and why were they smashing his vehicle? Were they trying to kill him? Reginald Denny was taken out of his truck and nearly beaten to death after the Rodney King riots. Did the driver of the vehicle think he was going to be beaten to death by the people with clubs?

  26. My prediction: the driver will be charged with manslaughter.

    He recklessly drive his car into another car which tragically hit a woman. Extenuating circumstances: mental illness, reasonable expectation of death or severe bodily harm.

  27. Peter Liang was charged with 2nd degree manslaughter for ACCIDENTAL discharge of his weapon, but negligence afterwards to not immediately stabilize Gurley.

    If James Alex Fields Jr “only” gets charged with manslaughter after INTENTIONALLY driving into a crowd when he should’ve immediately backed up and drove away, then we know how rigged the USofA system really is.

    Also, where are the Asian SJW outrage over a WF getting killed? Where’s the apologies after Berkeley SJWs shutdown the campus to not allow white students to enter? This is the kind of extremism and insanity that SJWs and Alt-Right Wingnuts are opposites sides of the same coin.

  28. “I’m not so sure.

    1) The driver had mental illness
    “Mental Illness” can mean almost anything. In a wealthier climate, perhaps all terrorist would be considered to suffer from “mental illness.” Taking medication or acting ot doesn’t mean that you don’t know right from wrong.

    2) He ran into another car which hit the victim
    Yes, after running over a total of 19 people and injuring them, his car was finally stopped at the end as he crashed into another car. That is the 3 second clip that you linked to. Here is the full clip and the man who filmed it. It was clearly a terrorist act.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfk2e15Bhfg

    3) If it was an act of terrorism, why did he quit going forward?
    Because he hit a car.

    4) Was it more a matter of panicking? In the video I linked to above, his car was hit with clubs before he ran into the orther car, and then the windows were all smashed in after he backed up quickly. Why did the people have clubs and why were they smashing his vehicle? Were they trying to kill him? Reginald Denny was taken out of his truck and nearly beaten to death after the Rodney King riots. Did the driver of the vehicle think he was going to be beaten to death by the people with clubs?”

    No, because people only hit his car with clubs AFTER he ran into a crown of people, injuring 19 and killing an unarmed woman

  29. I can see how mental illness could be a factor if you’re having a psychotic episode where you feel threatened or something, but I’d be surprised if that is what happened here. You can be mentally ill and still know what’s right from wrong.

  30. So I just read an article saying that the driver-idiot was diagnosed with schizophrenia when he was younger and had been prescribed an anti-psychotic medication.

  31. I blame gluten, it’s the perfect excuse for everything.

    Although I’m not a alt-right wingnut, I still take personal responsibility to not have any encephalic attacks and avoid situations that could potentially put myself and others at harm. That’s what responsible and conscience people do, not terrorists.

  32. Yeah there are a LOT of people who have been diagnosed with schizophrenia. But 95% of them would not join a Neo Nazi group and then run down a crowd of people with their car. If that was the case, then people diagnosed with schizophrenia would not be allowed to attain drivers licenses.

    Being schizophrenic isnt a license to kill. We don’t even know if he’s still considered schizo or not.

  33. It would be an extremely hard sell to a court. The guy took the time to drive down to a White Nationalist rally…not by coincidence either.

  34. @ WOWO – Yeah it’s hard to say, I became a Neo Nazi, and drove down to join fellow Neo Nazi’s and then ran over 20 people with my car… because I’m schizophrenic!!! It really doesn’t work that way. 🙂

  35. “Your honor, I have two personalities. The nonviolent White Nationalist, who is me, drove down to join fellow Neo Nazis. But it was the violent White Nationalist, the other personality, who slammed his foot on the gas and killed those people! So as you can see, I had nothing to do with the crime I’m being charged with!”

  36. We’ll see what will happen to this driver. He should not have (obviously) drove into the crowd. but he should NOT have got out of his car either as he would probably have been beaten to death. A large part of the blame must go to the police chief and/or mayor since the cops did not make an effort to separate the two groups.

    But in other news……”Kill all white people’: Suspect in killings of five white men made threat in 2014; local story only:

    http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article170340652.html

  37. @ WOWO haha! Good point.

    @ Shawn. Really? Just for fun, may I ask, how many of the Neo Nazis and assorted White Supremacists, wearing full uniforms, waving swastika flags, and making Nazi salutes, were beaten to death over that weekend??? I count ZERO. Was that because they were all locked safely in their cars? Or am I missing something?

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