Immigration Ban

This has to be the stupidest action ever taken by an American president during my lifetime. And that includes the time that W invaded Iraq. We’ve never had a single incident of domestic terrorism from any immigrants from these countries. Instead, it looks like we’re banning at least one promising young scientist along with college students and people fleeing oppression. Keep in mind, these aren’t illegals. These are people who have gone through all the proper legal channels. Google said that 187 employees are being affected. Tech leaders are all up in arms, as they should be.

Honestly, I didn’t think Trump would build the wall or do the Muslim ban (which is what this is aiming to do). I hope all Christians go to church tomorrow to pray for the people affected by our Islamophobic Christian president.

 

42 thoughts on “Immigration Ban

  1. The message is crystal clear: Erect a Trump tower or golf-course or be treated as a Terror state.

  2. We’re treating humans like Samsung Galaxy phones. Just because a few exploded, all of them are now banned on airplanes. Difference is no harm is done when no galaxy is on airplanes, but we’re messing with people’s lives here. Sure this ban will help with national security, as much as banning galaxy phones to flight safety. Is it worth it to throw many innocent people under the bus for a little bit more of security ?
    Yes there are many really selfish and bad people out there, thanks to the popular American values of narcissism, ethnocentrism, willful ignorance, phony and white worshiping. They are so full of themselves that they think America is the greatest country on earth thanks to “their American” values, when in fact it has always been the immigrants who are the backbones of American greatness, especially Asian values.
    Asian values are the best values that every single human should adopt. Humility, honesty, integrity, personal responsibility, education focused, and social harmony are the ingredients of a Utopia. However, in this animalistic popular American culture, good people get pooped on, and Asian values are seen as inferior and “not cool” because the majority idiots think their egoistic belief system is what makes everything great for them.
    Immigrants in general have the best work ethics and the strongest motivation. They are the workhorse of the American economy and at the same time pulling the weight of the lazy, entitled, ignorant, and racist majority idiots. Asians in particular, in addition with the usual good immigrant traits mentioned above, are also intelligent, ingenious, and most importantly, brought up with the Asian values.
    There need to be an universal IQ test or some other tests to weed out the stupid people from voting. That would really make America greater than ever.

  3. What I don’t get is how does Saudi Arabia end up staying off of the list when that is where such a high percentage of the terrorists have come from? What is the Saudi magic???

    As for immigration policy, I think it makes a huge difference whether this ban is short-term /temporary while trying to “fix the system” or whether this is a permanent ban. Secondly, I’d say that there has to be adequate justification of a plausible threat.

    1) Has the banned nation already exported active terrorists to other countries?
    2) Have groups like ISIS, Al Qaeda, or Hezbollah significantly infiltrated the country
    3) Are countries incapable of thoroughly vetting candidates on their end?
    4) Do these countries support or encourage terrorism

    If several of these things are happening, I cannot argue that stopping or restricting immigration from such place doesn’t make sense. I does make sense to any logical person. The problem is that it would be easy for this ban to become a permanent, blanket ban on middle easterners in general, and that would be a problem.

    But I think it should be clear that AT THIS POINT the ban is not:

    – A ban on “Muslim immigration”
    – A ban on the Arab ethnicity
    – A mass exportation of Muslims or Arabs
    – A persecution of American Muslims

    But like most things in government, I predict that it will be fraught with screw-ups, overlooked importances, favoritism, loopholes, and stupid bureaucratic bungles.

  4. @ King

    What I don’t get is how does Saudi Arabia end up staying off of the list when that is where such a high percentage of the terrorists have come from? What is the Saudi magic???

    Oil. The Saudis have a powerful lobby in US government, so it doesn’t make sense politically to try to alienate America’s “ally”. Also, Trump does business with Saudis, so there’s that.

  5. Well it hardly makes sense to have any ban so long as you leave the main offenders off the list. It’s like building a fence only on 3 sides of your property. The value of a fence is that it encloses your yard. It’s no good if one side is open.

  6. It doesn’t matter who made the list. It’s the ban itself. Just saying, “I think these places are dangerous” is different from saying, “Let’s ban people from these places.” One is a thought, one is an action. And as King said, if you’re going to ban, might as well ban people from countries which have historically been hotbeds of terrorism.

  7. What is the big deal to ban the entry of people from those places? Where were the protest and outrage when the US government and military ruined those countries, totally destabilized the region and killed millions? It is not that long ago that 70% of Americans supported the invasion of Iraq, the color revolution in middle east and changing the regime in Libya had been boasted by Hillary and Obama as their big accomplishment.

    I’m not saying that I support Trump’s policy, but is he really worse than the previous two administrations?

  8. For instance, in his Inaugural Address, President Trump made clear that he would break with the orthodoxy of neoconservatism and liberal interventionism that has led to endless wars in the Middle East and a dangerous New Cold War with Russia.

    Trump declared: “We will seek friendship and goodwill with the nations of the world, but we do so with the understanding that it is the right of all nations to put their own interests first. We do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone, but rather to let it shine as an example. We will shine for everyone to follow.”
    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/01/21/selectivity-in-trashing-trump/

    If Trump can really follow his words, I’ll view him as a better president than the most in last several decades on foreign policies.

  9. White men are the most prolific terrorists world wide for the past 500 years. They should be banned and all sent packing to Europe.

  10. ChineseMom,

    Even though it’s unfair, people don’t notice decisions that affect people 5,000 miles away. It’s harder (but more human) to feel for the people right in our neighborhoods, working alongside us, and being our friends. It’s easier to see decisions that affect those around us. I’m not saying it’s right, but I am saying it’s human.

    You and I both agree that Trump is a buffoon. What makes him worse than any other president is his inability to get things done and his tendency to waste time, money, and resources. What also makes him worse is his lack of ethics and his habit of lying.

  11. ChineseMom,
    He is not going to be able to do what he says. He finds some “success” because he can do a few audacious things, but he is not going to be able to really build the relationships needed to get things done.

  12. Here is a quote from Lao Tzu:

    A leader is best when people barely know he exists, when his work is done, his aim fulfilled, they will say: we did it ourselves.
    Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/l/laotzu121709.html

    Of course, Trump isn’t Chinese, but he fails on almost all counts.

    Here’s the one that I remember:

    “To lead people, walk beside them …
    As for the best leaders, the people do not notice their existence.
    The next best, the people honor and praise.
    The next, the people fear; and the next, the people hate …
    When the best leader’s work is done the people say,
    We did it ourselves!”
    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/10627-to-lead-people-walk-beside-them-as-for-the

    He’s clearly in the fourth category.

  13. Anyone wonder why Japan never has Muslim terrorism?

    There are 7 bil people in the world, and America has the sovereign right to decide who to ban and who to let in.

  14. Well Japan isn’t the symbol that the U.S. is. Of course, Europe seems to get most of the terrorism outside of the Middle East itself.

  15. @ SJ

    Anyone wonder why Japan never has Muslim terrorism?

    Yeah, I also wonder why they have Buddhist terrorism.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_subway_sarin_attack

    America has the sovereign right to decide who to ban and who to let in.

    America has the right to decide immigration policy but not to discriminate on the basis of nationality, like Trump’s immigration order.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Convention_on_the_Elimination_of_All_Forms_of_Racial_Discrimination

  16. Trump declared: “We will seek friendship and goodwill with the nations of the world, but we do so with the understanding that it is the right of all nations to put their own interests first. We do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone, but rather to let it shine as an example. We will shine for everyone to follow.”

    Lies, lies, lies. Trump is as fake as the orange skintone on his face. This is the reason why the Chinese or even Asians should not align to the right, the extreme Alt-Right hate China, doesn’t matter how much Jack Ma kisses their arses. They hate both China and North Korea, and they want war, not friendship or goodwill.

    You guys think Affirmative Action from the Left is bad? At least the Left allows Asians to stay in the U.S. and study at any university that accepts them. The Alt-Right on the other hand, wants to ban 330,000 Chinese students from getting an education in the U.S., they won’t even allow Chinese or even Asian students to enter into the U.S. with all their immigration order restrictions.

    https://qz.com/849612/china-sends-330000-students-to-the-us-each-year-and-trump-could-change-that/?utm_source=YPL&yptr=yahoo

    The Alt-Right wants nothing to do with Asians, except for going to War, Notty also posted before me in the other thread.

    http://www.bigwowo.com/2011/08/jon-huntsman-speaks-chinese-and-explains-relationship-with-china/#comment-326715

    Steve Bannon: ‘we’re going to war in the South China Sea … no doubt’

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/steve-bannon-were-going-to-war-in-the-south-china-sea-no-doubt/ar-AAmwFbi?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

  17. @ NightTown

    I think it’s already obvious to most minorities that the Right is worse overall than the Left, since it’s more closely aligned with White identity politics.

    But while the Right only cares about White folks and no one else, I’d say the Left has its own internal racial hierarchy, in order of decreasing political influence:

    1. White
    2. Black
    3. Hispanic
    4. Native
    5. Asian

    You could make the argument that Asians have more power than Natives due to numbers, but I’d say Asians have the added disadvantage of being seen as foreigners who don’t even belong in America. That’s harder to quantify.

    Historically, most Asian Americans voted Republican but even then, that was mostly tied to Cold War geopolitics. Most Asians have gravitated towards Democrats after the fall of world communism, especially as younger generations have caught on to the fact that the Republicans are the party of White privilege.

    As a racial minority, you just have to deal with the fact that one party wants to get rid of you while the other party at least pretends it cares about you, if only for your vote. Beggars can’t be choosers.

  18. Where does Muslims fit into that racial totem pole / pecking order?

    I know Islam is a religion and not “a race” (the Tsarnaev bros for example, as being “Caucasian” as they can get), but for practical purposes USofA sees them as Middle-Eastern brown people. And don’t say your definition of “Asian” is so broad as to encompass all of arbitrary geography.

  19. @ aardvark

    Good question. My guess is Muslims occupy a similar position to Asians, however, I’d nuance that by adding that the US is at war against Islam, making Muslims “the enemy”. On the other hand, the Left coddles Muslims in a way that they never would for Asians. Muslims also have far more social and political capital, at least among the Far Left, because they don’t have to deal with the Model Minority stereotype being thrown in their faces at every turn.

    Ranking races is highly subjective and situational and disregards the fact that racism is not always a stable hierarchy with discrete layers but historically has often been a dynamic competition, with each race vying for supremacy. All hierarchies can be upended when there’s war.

  20. @kiwi,

    I’d say that Muslims in ‘Murica to the regressive left is somewhere like 1.5 on the totem pole. Black lives matter, but Muslim lives also matter to the sensationalist media and SJW controversies. You know the corporate CEOs are just loving the non-stop news nowadays.

    *SPOILERS!*
    However, there’s still degrees of acceptance like you said. My friends and I just watched Passengers yesterday and the trope of the black guy dies first is still there. Not only does the black guy die first, but also the only guy to die in the movie; not even the robot dies like Rogue One.

  21. @ aardvark

    I just noticed this after the fact, but each racial group as you descend my ladder is seen as less assimilated. The more Anglo American ways you take on, the closer to Whiteness you are. During the 1992 LA riots, a racial attitudes survey found that Whites saw themselves as closest to Blacks. My guess is Asians and Latinos are seen as foreigners, and thus not assimilated like Blacks.

    Come to think of it, most non-Americans I’ve met have this idea in their heads that the US has Whites mostly and some Blacks but I have rarely met people who readily understood that America has other races, too. Many don’t even know what a “Hispanic” is or even think that’s a race.

    So I think in addition to political power, Blacks have more social and cultural power than other non-White races. The average American never assumes Blacks are FOBs. In fact, African immigrants tend to be mistaken for slave-descendants, showing Blacks are seen as Americans to a significant degree.

  22. Sorry to keep droning, but I should add that a huge part of the reason why White liberal entertainers like Stephen Colbert and Sarah Silverman felt Asians but not Blacks were a safe target for racist humor is the social and cultural influence Blacks have that Asians don’t.

    For the same reason, Chinese and now Muslim immigration to this country were banned. If Blacks were banned, even the conservatives would be fighting it.

  23. During Trump’s campaign, Asians, Latinos, and Muslims were vilified as outside threats to America. Blacks were the only non-White group that Trump even made an outreach to or even acknowledged as Americans. That’s a big deal when White nationalism usually calls for a White ethno-state that excludes all non-Whites. Blacks would be the last group to be ethnically cleansed, if ever.

  24. The Iraq war is which was based on a lie, killed 5k American soldiers, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and cost 1.9 trillion. This temp ban has kept a few hundred people out of the US. Clearly the first one is much, much worse.

    Do I agree with the ban as it is? No. Keeping green card holders out is out is dumb. Not allowing those in who boarded planes before ban was announced is cruel.

    But 5 of these countries don’t have real gov’ts. Saying Trump doesn’t have hotels there so they are banned is mindless. How many Best Westerns are there in Somali?

    Trump is wrong but keep it in perspective. How many Muslims is Korea, Japan, China, inviting to come live there and become citizens? Would anyone here want any of those countries to become majority Muslim? Do you want America to become majority Muslim? I doubt it.

  25. @ Lingyai

    What does your comment prove? The Chinese Exclusion Act was passed due to Whites fearing that the Western United States would become majority Chinese. If not for the act, that would have actually happened.

    The problem with identity politics is that it always boils down to every minority demanding a seat next to the White man but crying when his chair is taken away.

  26. @Kiwi,

    During the 1992 LA riots, a racial attitudes survey found that Whites saw themselves as closest to Blacks. My guess is Asians and Latinos are seen as foreigners, and thus not assimilated like Blacks.

    Which is why I primarily point fingers at the media and education as faults for brainwashing the population. Latinos/Hispanics and Asians have been in CA longer than most African-Americans, but mass media still perpetuates people as thick accent and inscrutable.

    I’m eager to see Justin Chon’s Sundance movie that won the audience award, but I got reservations on the title “Gook” just as I have for Simon Tam’s group “Slants.” I don’t recall MLK ever resorting to the current hip-hop “n word” to fight for civil rights…

    most non-Americans I’ve met have this idea in their heads that the US has Whites mostly and some Blacks but I have rarely met people who readily understood that America has other races, too. Many don’t even know what a “Hispanic” is or even think that’s a race.

    There was also a recent Reddit discussion about how Asia Asians perceived the USofA, and of course by default it’s mass media portrayals. There are youtube and social media images, but by shear marketing pervasiveness and quality of the mass media, the types of images is dictated by the studio executives. The WM always get the Asian girl, but sometimes also the BM side-kick for the “diversity dollars” so they can get that demographic’s money.

    So I think in addition to political power, Blacks have more social and cultural power than other non-White races.

    I don’t want to go into James Lamb-Fang land and talk about Black issues, but I have to give credit where credit’s due to African-American artistry and acknowledge the history of suffering that generates such art. But in many ways, their cultural influence is also permitted by the white mass media machine.

    Sorry to keep droning, but I should add that a huge part of the reason why White liberal entertainers like Stephen Colbert and Sarah Silverman felt Asians but not Blacks were a safe target for racist humor is the social and cultural influence Blacks have that Asians don’t.

    I spoke out about this issue before and have been blacklisted and ostracized from several APIA media organizations here in LA. Asians are seen as safe and easy targets because there are the “sellouts” who would defend the racist white hierarchy at all costs for their personal profit. It’s true in politics and even more true in media.

    During Trump’s campaign, Asians, Latinos, and Muslims were vilified as outside threats to America. Blacks were the only non-White group that Trump even made an outreach to or even acknowledged as Americans. That’s a big deal when White nationalism usually calls for a White ethno-state that excludes all non-Whites. Blacks would be the last group to be ethnically cleansed, if ever.

    Again, I don’t want to discuss African-American issues, when the facts are movies like “Hidden Figures” are marketed everywhere and nominated for Oscars, but when you have the #1 STEM stereotype nowhere to be seen except as some racist caricature “Han” on CBS prime-time should speak volumes about the US zeitgeist and social/political/racial agendas.

    However, I disagree with the notion that Blacks receive racial targeted violence last. In fact, I’d make the case that African-Americans have always been the forefront of racist violence, along other people of color. It’s just more pervasive because of population and current liberal agendas in education and media.

    The problem with identity politics is that it always boils down to every minority demanding a seat next to the White man but crying when his chair is taken away.

    Exactly! This is the #1 problem I got against James Lamb-Fang. Instead of building new round tables and chairs where everybody can sit in equality, James Lamb-Fang and Jenn Fang and their SJW Twitter cronies fight for scraps and throw out Asians to the cold.

  27. Lingyai the Haole racist troll wrote:

    Trump is wrong but keep it in perspective. How many Muslims is Korea, Japan, China, inviting to come live there and become citizens? Would anyone here want any of those countries to become majority Muslim? Do you want America to become majority Muslim?

    Does Korea, Japan, China have a history of promises to immigrants escaping religious persecution and provide freedom to worship God(s) however they see fit? This is always the #1 question I ask racist white trolls. There’s a reason the New Yorker’s frontpage has Lady Liberty’s golden torch snuffed out.

    As an agnostic-atheist I rather not see any more religion in the social discourse, but rather sanity, rationality, and logic prevail. However, if Muslims don’t seek to enforce Sharia law and respects the secular tradition of government then any majority religion is alright as long they respect American ideals and not suppress MINORITY religions and races.

    This is why I say bigWOWO is more American than James Lamb-Fang and Jenn Fang where intolerance and bigotry is the MO on Reappropriate.

  28. @ aardvark

    But in many ways, their cultural influence is also permitted by the white mass media machine.

    We touched on this before, but I forgot to mention that having spoken to people who grew up in Asian neighborhoods in California, the overwhelming focus of minority history lessons was always on Blacks or Jews. Even where Asians are the majority, their history gets glossed over by the education system.

    Also, the response I always get when I ask others whether they’d feel more afraid to openly mock Blacks/Jews in a classroom vs. mocking Asians is that Asians feel like the “safer” target. Asians don’t (yet?) have the social/cultural power that Blacks and Jews have to sensitize people to anti-Asian racism.

    E.g.: I’ve had White teachers call out White students for making Jewish jokes and of course, nobody has ever dared make a Black joke. But I’ve seen White students loudly mock the Asian teacher’s accent while Asian students laughed along. I blame our education and media for normalizing racism against Asians.

    I disagree with the notion that Blacks receive racial targeted violence last.

    I didn’t say that. To clarify, anti-Black violence has a very different history and character than violence against other races. Mass racial violence against Asians, Latinos, and Natives was historically eliminationist. Violence against Blacks during Jim Crow was never intended to get rid of Blacks. In fact, its intended effect was quite the opposite.

    The end of slavery allowed Blacks to leave the plantation, so racial violence was instigated by elite White planters to prevent Blacks from leaving so they’d continue to serve as cheap labor on the same plantations they had been slaves. As a result, Blacks living in parts of the South that had higher rates of lynchings had lower socioeconomic outcomes. When the Great Migration began, White elites panicked that Blacks, who they depended on for labor, were leaving. This is a totally different history than for Asians, Latinos, and Natives. Racial violence against these groups was always intended to eliminate them, not make them stick around, like it was for Blacks. This mindset of wanting to keep Blacks around (if only for labor) but trying to get rid of other races has carried over to the present day.

  29. @ aarvark

    I’d make the case that African-Americans have always been the forefront of racist violence, along other people of color. It’s just more pervasive because of population and current liberal agendas in education and media.

    If you mean Americans are more sensitized to anti-Black violence than violence against other races, I agree. During the same week that the front page news was saturated with coverage of the police killings of two Black men, the police killings of five Latinos went completely unnoticed. That disparity all comes down to differences in social/political/cultural power. Latinos, being mostly first and second generation immigrants, lack that power compared to Blacks.

    In the American Old West, Natives, Mexicans, and Chinese bore the brunt of racial violence. In fact, Blacks were the perpetrators of some of that violence, in the form of the Buffalo Soldiers. But our history classes always make it about “Black slavery this, Jewish Holocaust that” (which isn’t even American history). People who got wiped out or driven out, like Natives, Mexicans, and Chinese, don’t get the privilege of telling their people’s stories. Blacks do.

    *American Jews did not experience the Holocaust so they get to tell their story on behalf of their European brothers and sisters.

  30. @Kiwi,

    We touched on this before, but I forgot to mention that having spoken to people who grew up in Asian neighborhoods in California, the overwhelming focus of minority history lessons was always on Blacks or Jews. Even where Asians are the majority, their history gets glossed over by the education system.

    I didn’t grow up in Cali and despite going to graduate school here, never took any Asian American history classes. However, compared to other places I’ve lived, seems like the difference between heaven and earth in terms of Asian American studies courses and curriculum that has some modicum of APIA history in the electives.

    Perhaps you meant K-12? I don’t know much about it, but I hear at least there’s some mention of 1882 exclusion act and the executive order 9006. I never even knew about these until I started reading history on my own.

    Asians don’t (yet?) have the social/cultural power that Blacks and Jews have to sensitize people to anti-Asian racism.

    And I completely support the African-American history of artistic achievements. Even Tylor Perry is doing it on his own terms because Blacks will support black artists who call out the system and social inustice.

    Whereas with Asians our narratives aren’t even our own, but created/mandated by studio executives and just tastes nasty. Those few who are ordained “Asian famous” do it at a cost to and detrimental to Asian Americans. I won’t name names, because already having too many of those fights with the media organizations and SJWs on it.

    I’ve seen White students loudly mock the Asian teacher’s accent while Asian students laughed along. I blame our education and media for normalizing racism against Asians.

    I completely and overwhelmingly agree with this sentiment and have said it for years that mass media brainwashes the population to go with social and political agendas.

    Education is another matter, but I’d think the politicians (especially now) aren’t going to fund programs that doesn’t maximize returns on their constituents to vote for them. So that means, Asians, being the easiest targeted minority, automatically get ignored by the education system; just as how it’s easy to functional quota Asian students, the K-12 ignores Asian American history to pander to the other voting blocs.

    I didn’t say that. To clarify, anti-Black violence has a very different history and character than violence against other races. Mass racial violence against Asians, Latinos, and Natives was historically eliminationist. Violence against Blacks during Jim Crow was never intended to get rid of Blacks. In fact, its intended effect was quite the opposite.

    James Lamb-Fang lives on! Even when he’s not trolling, we still go into African American issues and history. And like I said before: it’s already discussed many, many, many times over on other outlets and I’m not interested to go into it.

    The only thing I’ll note is you’re conflating historical violence with contemporary violence. I do agree with most of the BLM grievances against the popo, since it also affects other minorities including Asians.

    Latinos, being mostly first and second generation immigrants, lack that power compared to Blacks.

    I disagree with this to some extent. Because out here in lalaland the income disparity is still great against the vast majority of Latinos/Hispanics, they lack the economic and media power compared to Blacks in other parts of the country.

    I’ve see and met and interviewed with racist Latino/Hispanic managers that would do everything to keep Asians down just like racist James Lamb-Fang, but for the most part the income disparity is still there.

    However, the reality is that both DNC and GOP and Haolewood racist studios all cater to Latinos/Hispanics because of the voting power and some level of economic decisions made by Latinas for their households.

    Blacks were the perpetrators of some of that violence, in the form of the Buffalo Soldiers.

    My current screenplay delves into this a little bit, but you also have to remember the times in which those atrocities occured.

    The infamous LA lynchings of 18 Chinese was started by Chinese gamblers and debt collectors, after all. The way that Asians treat other Asians can often be as horrific, if not even more crazy.

  31. @ aardvark

    Perhaps you meant K-12?

    Yes. Fortunately, we have Asian American studies in university but we still get Asian Americans coming out of these institutions supporting Black causes but not Asian causes and saying stupid shit like “Blacks are persecuted but Asians are not, therefore, Asians are privileged”. Never mind that for the same qualifications, Blacks are more likely to be promoted over Asians or admitted to top schools.

    The only thing I’ll note is you’re conflating historical violence with contemporary violence.

    Don’t look at me. It’s the BLM types who claim that modern day police violence is a direct continuation of Jim Crow lynchings. Unless you mean to say they’re wrong. Either way, my point stands. Historical lynchings were never meant to eliminate Blacks from the country, unlike lynchings of other races.

  32. @Kiwi,

    By “top schools” you mean the racist Ivy ones which James Lamb-Fang got his “degree” from? I never went there, never will and I have to say again: why are Asians so stupid as to want to pay money into racist institutions? Because I certainly never hear anything about Asian American studies in the Ivy schools.

    Now contrast with the UC and CalState Systems, Asian American studies are practically pre-requisites for gen-ed points. I even met white and black kids who majored in Asian American studies! I’m not BSing here, but I met more APIA knowledgeable white dudes than the Asian SJWs here in California!

    Don’t look at me. It’s the BLM types who claim that modern day police violence is a direct continuation of Jim Crow lynchings. Unless you mean to say they’re wrong. Either way, my point stands. Historical lynchings were never meant to eliminate Blacks from the country, unlike lynchings of other races.

    Again, I’m not interested in African American politics and I know Black History Month is the shortest month of the year; and also that BLM exaggerate and lie about events. However, there certainly is a trend of anti-Black violence by the popo that’s not as PREVALENT as it is for other minorities.

    I work at “highly-educated” organizations where over 50% of white people are Ph.D.s in STEM fields, and the conversations sometimes I overhear are appalling. True, most of the time they’re also condescending about Chinese factor workers in China, but it’s more about how wiley the Chinese/Asians are and the fact they see me and know that I can go toe-to-toe with them on any subject. Whereas for Blacks and Hispanics/Latinos the prejudice is very much what mainstream media’s propaganda are.

    Again, I know ChineseMom gonna make some BS statements about “culture” but I’d have to point out again, what does that make Andre and the culture he subscribes to?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDugT7Mtngo

  33. @ aardvark

    However, there certainly is a trend of anti-Black violence by the popo that’s not as PREVALENT as it is for other minorities.

    Incorrect. Natives are more likely to be killed by police than Blacks. But of course, we never hear about that because for every Native in the US, there are about 13 times as many Blacks. Again, that’s a result of the fact that Natives experienced genocide and Blacks did not. But of course, BLM types have a vested interest in feeding you propaganda that supports their notion of Blacks having it worse than any other race and in this instance, you ate it right up.

    More Natives Killed By Police Than Any Other Group

    https://indiancountrymedianetwork.com/news/opinions/more-natives-killed-by-police-than-any-other-group/

  34. @ aardvark

    The fact that people like Snoopy Jenkins rail against anti-Black police violence but fail to mention worse rates of anti-Native police violence tells me that the national conversation on race and privilege is shaped not by fact, but by propaganda. Namely, only racial minorities with the social and cultural power to push an agenda through media and education are in a position to construct a victimization narrative that elicits sympathy and support from useful idiots. Eg: Asian SJWs who latch themselves to Black causes like BLM but attack Asian causes.

    Again, Blacks are light years ahead in this department compared to Asians and many of them are actively trying to shut out other minorities in order to protect their spotlight on the stage of racial oppression.

  35. Light years ahead? Kiwi, I’m not sure they have an enviable position. As Snoopy has rightly said, he would gladly switch places (even if he’s unwilling to take steps to change things up).

  36. @ bigWOWO

    By “ahead”, I meant developing political, social, and cultural power, which are constructive pursuits, not abusing said power to deceive and use others as pawns for selfish pursuits.

  37. @Kiwi,

    More Natives Killed By Police Than Any Other Group

    I’m aware of Native Americans’ suffering and the mainstream media never giving any air time to issues like the Dakota pipeline. However, I’m also not interested on an Asian American issues blog to go into the Oppression Olympics – unlike James Hypocrite Lamb-Fang constantly wailing about anti-Black racism.

    Suffice to say, it’s despicable the news cycle only wants viewer numbers and flame the fires of social unrest with reporting of sensationalist pieces.

    Which is why I agree with your statement to some extent:

    only racial minorities with the social and cultural power to push an agenda through media and education are in a position to construct a victimization narrative that elicits sympathy and support from useful idiots. Eg: Asian SJWs who latch themselves to Black causes like BLM but attack Asian causes.

    The only words I have problem with is “construct a victimization narrative.” I think this borderlines on “fake news” type of spin doctoring. While there’s definitely exaggerations and lies to push their SJW agendas, I disagree with the notion that it’s “construct” these narratives when the news is obvious there’s anti-Black racism by the popo.

    Despite James Lamb-Fang constantly denying his identity politics and hypocrisy on “tribalism,” I think it’s kind of normal for people to self-identify with groups – but not necessarily just a social racial construct, but various other labels. However, the Asian SJWs are true nutjobs in my book because they do everything they can to throw Asians under the bus to appease to the White and Black SJW establishments to gain favors and personal benefits. That’s understandable, but reprehensible to me they’re the ones constructing victimization narratives against Asians in favor of SJW agendas.

  38. I listed each race in order of the likelihood they are to vote Democratic:

    1. Black
    2. Hispanic
    3. Native
    4. Asian
    5. White

    Not sure what to make of it but I notice that the party tends to favor races that are higher up the list over the others. Whites are the only exception because they’re the majority.

    1. White
    2. Black
    3. Hispanic
    4. Native
    5. Asian

    If you make the adjustment, you’re back with the original hierarchy of power that I posted upthread. I wonder which came first?

    Are certain races more likely to vote Democratic because the party caters to them more or does the party cater to certain races more because they vote for them? Or is it both?

    Based on my research, Black Republicans tend to be rich, Hispanic Republicans tend to be European in appearance and assimilated into Anglo culture, Native Republicans also tend to be European in appearance and assimilated, and Asian Republicans tend to be older immigrants from conservative countries with traditional values. Although not strictly races, Jewish Republicans tend to be strong Israel supporters and Muslim Republicans renounce or condemn their religion.

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