Thanks, RY from MANAA, for posting this: Nicolas Cage Criticizes Hollywood’s Lack of Opportunities for Male Asian Actors (Video). It’s ironic on two levels:
1. 
(pic from here)
I remember when Nicholas Cage first got Alice Kim pregnant. People on the Fighting 44s were mad because people from LA said they saw Cage trolling LA’s Koreatown for Korean women. According to these (admittedly anonymous) first person accounts, Cage was quite successful. The young Korean American women in those K-Town bars were all over him. Now of course, one might expect this, given that he’s a big star. But still. Unless your name is Will Smith, that highest level of stardom only seems to exist in Hollywood if you’re a White guy. There’s some irony in seeing a guy whose career has been bolstered by White privilege now supposedly speaking against White privilege because he son is Asian, all while doing nothing to actually change the situation.
By the way, Cage named his son Kal-El. Wasn’t Superman also White? (Except in the pic below, from Jimmy Aquino’s website. Jimmy podcasted with us a while back.)
2. 
Speaking of White privilege, guess who just enjoyed the privilege of being in the ten-thousandth Robin-Hood-in-Reverse WM/AF movie, this time shot in China (HAHA…from the streets of Brazil to China!)? That’s right…Nicholas Cage (see above photo)! Not only does it appear to be a WM/AF movie, but it looks like it’s double the fun: TWO White guys and TWO Asian women. Woo hoo!
It’s what I’ve been saying all along. The Chinese in China have the exact same issues IR issues as the Chinese in America. It doesn’t seem like they made room for an Asian male star in Cage’s new movie, but if Awake and Alive (formerly known as “Eric”) goes back to the Motherland, maybe he can get a job as a janitor on the set for this forever-again-retold blending of East and West.
Oh great. Now he calls his son Asian in the interview.
Now what are we, Martians? So, by his logic Asian males are not even needed to produce an Asian baby. I see how this works.
This is why we need to revisit the one-drop White blood rule. I can go along with more than 75% Asian, you are Asian rule.
Nicholas Cage and his wife leading the fight for Asian male would be the ultimate joke. It would do much more harm than good.
Another China/Hollywood WMAF coproduction , nothing new there. As for the irony of speaking up for Asian males in the cinema, maybe we can coin it ‘Asiaphile Activism’
I recall pics of a recent Chinese film festival starring showing off two of Hollywoods Asiaphiles, John Cusack ( once dated /is dating Gong Li ) , and this Asiaphile Cage wearing yellow scarves like some kind of red-carpet way to say that Hollywood comes to China in peace.
Haha Fuck Hollywood, and it’s anti-Asian/Sinophobic agenda, need it be said, yet again, on this blog.
I do think his son is Asian. I think a large number of half-Asian kids identify as Asian, some identifying more with their Asian side than their White side.
My issue is more with Cage himself. The dude is milking the cow of Orientalism in much of his personal and professional life, so I wonder how it’s possible for his words to carry any weight with respect to the Asian male. Certainly he hasn’t yet used his money or fame to actually do anything for us–not that we’d jump at the opportunity anyway.
I wonder how AF feel when they see all this. Are they pleased that they seem to have been “elevated” to the status of being wife material for famous white guys? I wonder if they feel as we Asian guys do, in that we feel kind of proud when it’s an Asian guy who marries Anna Chlumsky, Natalie Glebova, the Australian PM’s daughter, Al Gore’s daughter, etc.
But our feelings are borne out of the fact that such a pairing flies in the face of very ingrained stereotypes. Asian women have been coupling with White men, especially lower status Asian women with high status White men, for a very long time.
For over a hundred years, maybe more. The late Korean king warned his people that Westerners were ‘lecherous’. Thats how far back it goes.
@BigWOWO
Janitor eh? When I go abroad, I promise you that I will become more successful than you will ever be.
Except, that will never happen. What a tragedy.
@bigwowo,
“I do think his son is Asian.”
I know you do but I think its the wrong thing to do. For me race is a function of both biology and society. Imagine, Cage Jr. is accepted as an Asian, and then due to his dad’s connection he goes on to star in movies as Asian. Is that the image of an Asian man we want to portray? Do we want him who is the son of an Rice Chaser (confirmed? accused?) to be the face to represent Asian men?
The other issue is (again societal) you are either Asian or not. Kind of like being pregnant or not. Collin Powell, can’t claim to be a Black, and then also be a White. I bring up Collin Powell for obvious reasons.
I know of a Japanese American and an Indian-Asutralian beauty contest where part-Asian contestants were disqualified. I agree with that decision because having such contestant defeats the whole purpose of celebrating Asian beauty where there is already so much pressure to be White.
Can only white guys be rice chasers? My understanding is that the label will never ever apply to Asian guys, but does it apply to black or Hispanic guys too? It seems like some famous black guys have found some gorgeous Asian gals including Wesley Snipes, Wayne Brady, Dave Chappelle, David Alan Grier. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Of course ‘rice chaser’ is not an exclusively white title. But because the large-scale dynamic of AF/XM is not there, only AF/WM, the scrutiny will always rest on with White men and their inordinate amount of social power.
“My understanding is that the label will never ever apply to Asian guys – See more at: http://www.bigwowo.com/2013/10/when-rice-chaser-entertainers-become-the-most-prominent-pro-asian-male-activists/#comment-249765”
Does this even have to be stated, really?
Why do you suppose African-American men do better at IR than Asian men? Because of money/power or something else? I’m not sure how long you’ve been around, but when I’ve gone out to bars/clubs its often the black guys with the most attractive women and they are dating IR. Not hatin’ just sayin’.
So what I’m suggesting is perhaps there are other factors at play. The thrust of your theories is that in order for men of a certain race to be considered attractive their homeland has to have a hegemony. Yet your argument’s shortcomings are obvious when you look at black guys’ success with IR and also consider countries in Sub-Saharan Africa which have little power.
IR hasn’t been and is currently not a real issue in Japan, China, or N. or S. Korea. These countries are just too homogenous for the most part. There has not been mass immigration & military bases and businessmen overseas are too small in number for the average Asian guy in those countries to really feel any disparity.
Maybe black men compared to Asian men in terms of IR, but I don’t see it being extremely significant when it comes to society as a whole. There are still a paltry number of IR relationships overall, even with black men. I figure it is just a numbers game really, when you compare African Americans to Asian men.
If you are saying Asian American men are inherently unattractive compared to other men, I got some reaction videos I’d like to show you. LOL.
Oh Blah, always trying to push us Asian men to accept some kind of inferiority complex, aren’t you? I ain’t buying.
Hypergamy is still the most potent force out there for determining mates. You yourself, Blah, mentioned you go for Asian women because it is the best deal. Would Asian women not feel the same way? You, my Caucasian compadre, are also the best deal, Mr. Moneybags.
For the record I am not saying that one race is superior to another. I’m simply noting that male attractiveness is not *entirely* wrapped up in power/money, or whether or not one’s ancestral homeland has a hegemony. I’m for the most part just mentioning that to you because you have a history of only talking about wanting to tear down Western power. Money/power and hegemony plays a certain rile, but there are entirely different “X factors” that you are not considering. I don’t have time to get into it all at the moment, but I’m thinking it mostly boils down to the media not disseminating Asian guys’ own brand of cool very well.
this guy is a joke. where was he when he was part of all those mega-movies? where was he when his star power was the greatest 10-15 years ago? now he ain’t shit. your box office draw is fading and now you turn to Asia for cash. great. he isn’t the only one doing it either. i guess he wants some favors from the Chinese. LOL
but in the end nothing will actually be done and same ole same ole. more Hollywood boozing. empty words from an empty man.
his son will be the same. the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree………
The attractiveness issue pertaining to Asian Men have been addressed over and over again. Yes, it’s a big factor when it comes to non-Asian women. It’s also becoming a big factor for Asian women as well.
It would make sense with rising feminism in the West, Asian women would also have a different criteria in selecting mates, as we are heading into the second decade of the 21st century. Asian women are beginning to earn as much as Asian men.
What!!! more racial AF/WM couple promoted on Bigwowo???? đ But I may have to take Nicolas Cage out as an Asian Fetisher as he did date or married white women like Lisa Marie Presley. Is it only me and you married to Asian women? You paint a overly bias representation making the like of Eric, Asian Guy John Doe, Raquel, Pozhal, Indie King, Eurasian Sensation, Chr and Moroboshi who can’t find their Asian love đ
I ‘ll give you credit for posting that Jimmy Aquino Superman with his Asian Wonder woman. You have to provide balance that there are Asian men and women together in media videos or picture like my videos or this Robin Thick Blurred Lines cover by Paul Kim.
Robin Thicke – Blurred Lines (Paul Kim x David So x Joseph Vincent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eQ8ZoEAtac
WTF Asian porn star Evelyn Lin kissing an Asian guy in Video :'(
TheBlah,
People like Awake and Alive aren’t advocating Asian hegemony for its own sake. The end goal is to promote the image and social value of Asian men.
You’re right in that African countries don’t have much power in any sense. However, most Black Americans are regarded as Americans. Black people usually don’t get told to “Go back to your own country!” as often as Asian American people are. Therefore, their image is more integrated within American culture and doesn’t need to be reinforced from abroad.
And Black culture in America is seen as very masculine and cool. The popular image of the Black is as an athlete, entertainer, or trendsetter. It wasn’t always like this, but with the mainstreaming of hip hop and the dominance of Black athletes in major sports, this has how it has become.
Asian Americans are too small in number to make a similar impact, which is why people like Awake and Alive think that the change in image has to come from abroad.
“Iâm simply noting that male attractiveness is not *entirely* wrapped up in power/money, or whether or not oneâs ancestral homeland has a hegemony”.
Women care about looks as well.
Of course, better looking people get treated better. There’s been studies done on it. It has an effect on both sexes.
Pozhal,
Yes, it’s all about the marketing.
Again, if Asian men don’t step up, then nobody will notice them.
Thank you for that very coherent clarification Pozhal. Yes, there is really no way for Asians to establish a global Asian hegemonic reality. A multipolar world will certainly do, where white men will be forced to (gasp!) be considered as equals as non-white men. Is this what you are opposed to TheBlah?
I only don’t want to see the kind of reality that I am living in, one where AM are systematically marginalized in the social fabric of America, become translated to society globally. That would be a disaster, if Asians were slaves and marginalized in their own land. Which, did in fact happen, post-Boxer rebellion defeat, throughout China. Anyways, historical times aside, even the current status of Asian men is unacceptable. To see America become the world-wide standard would be a complete disaster. I’m sure other commenters would agree with that statement.
Chr — bullshit. Even if you do step up, it doesn’t change things.
Power is zero-sum. White men are NOT going to give up their privilege. You need to apply a genuine force, or deprive an incumbent entity of something vitally needed — you cannot cajole someone into letting go of their power.
If it’s a zero sum, then why are Black men dating White women? I have been to many social functions and I have to admit Black guys are just more extroverted and aggressive than many White guys and most Asian guys. They just go right up to the White ladies and start chatting away.
You basically have no concrete plan when it comes to challenging the status quo, and none of your advice reveal anything other than to create a multipolar world, which is beyond our abilities and perhaps our lifetime.
Don’t want to step up. Then Asian guys and Asian girls need to seek some kind of salvation – aka going back to their community and staying there. Trying to assimilate into American society and being unwanted or abused is the worse path one can take, if you don’t want to change that. That’s why FOBs do better than acculturated AAs, because trying to fit in with White people isn’t one of their main priorities.
What I write about can offer you an accurate understanding of racial discrepancies, the basis behind IR, the purpose and functional benefit of stereotyping Asian men, and an effective means to operate within our contemporary diverse society — maintaining Asian interests on hand, while still thriving within a multicultural / white-dominated diaspora (Justified Hypocrisy). I do not have any Asian inferiority complexes because I have an indepth understanding of the nature of it all. I also do not feel anger towards the incumbent ethnicity because I understand the nature of zero-sum (alls-fair). I have a healthy connection with my ethnic identity, a plan for my future.
I, like every human being on this planet, have many flaws and imperfections. I myself am not a model for all AMs to follow. But my ideas are sound. Overall, I feel comfortable in my skin, and happy to operate in a way that I see fit.
Chr,
Are you completely blind to the many ways that Black men are held down in America? I know we like to think of Black guys as being this super-sexual conqueror, but when you think about it, their IR rates should be MUCH higher than it is. Never mind the Pew study that actually showed that American-born Asian men outmarry at HIGHER RATES than Black men.
Speaking in broad stereotypes, Black men have easily surpassed White men in terms of athletic and pop cultural achievement. So many, if not most, of the big names in sports and music are Black. Little girls grow up idolizing and imitating Black artists.
Of course, that’s counterbalanced by the stereotype that Black men are thuggish and stupid. But once that stereotype’s been disproven on the individual level by, say, a Black Harvard medical student, shouldn’t that guy be seen as the most desirable man? After all, he’s masculine AND intelligent!
Yet most American women don’t dream of a Barack Obama. They still think that a Brad Pitt or a Justin Bieber or a Robert Pattinson is the dream guy.
This is how tilted the playing field is. Black men have so clearly established their brawny dominance over White men, but even when they prove that they are intellectual equals or superiors, it’s STILL White men who are preferred by most American women.
So don’t think that Asian men are a few smooth lines away from achieving equality or anything. Even if the next generation came to dominate the Billboard charts and the NBA, chances are that we’d still be seen as an exotic little sidedish.
Asian men have the capacity to be attractive to ALL women. This is best displayed by the KPOP reaction videos, although there are many other venues which this can be seen. The question is, if they have the capacity to be universally attractive, what is keeping them down? I state Western hegemony. TheBlah has attempted to use Black men as a counter-argument, that Western hegemony is not at fault — but it is a weak argument with many inconsistencies.
Meanwhile, Hypergamy has been constantly observed to be a very consistent social phenomenon. In the end, I can tell you that when you understand how AA stereotyping and marginalization work, you can see through it. And you can be a better person for it, I guarantee.
@Blah,
I gave you B+ for observing one thing about IR. Yes, Black men seem to do well in IR dating. So homeland hegemony and all those bull crap don’t seem to matter here. But I need to give you D- for asking Asian men to go out and date Black girls in droves so as to equalize the AFWM and AMWF disparity. Overall, you’re hanging in “C” grade. You’re getting there, I believe. Keep working on to get A+ by expanding your view on Asian men.
Since you’re quite aware of IR and IR disparity, I don’t think we need to go into detail here. Generally AFBM and AMBF pairing is not yet or becoming a big issue so as to speak.
You raised an interesting point of Asian men in media images. Yes, that’s what we (all commenters here with a reasonable amount of knowledge) have been spewing out with Anti-Hollywood sentiment. Here’s my humble observation on why Hollywood has been dividing, suppressing Asian men representation in Media.
Presenting good images of Asian Men in Media would be the last frontier for Asian men to conquer the World. So anybody who hates Asian men or East Asian men in particular can profusely thank Hollywood and the like to suppress the rise of Asian Men. And I guess BlackPyrde would be the first one to enjoy this revelation.
Caring husband, good income, family-oriented, smart, genius, dreamy eyes, exotic sense of humor, +6 feet tall like (Most of the Koreans, Mongolians, Northern Chinese), full of 5000 years old history and literature to recount while their wives are intently listening, and guess what? Your favorite Hollywood present the entire World with small penis jokes and asexual nature of our manhood. And you wonder the IR disparity is due to Media image? I’d shout at the top of my lungs Hell Yeah!!!!.
But thanks to some European countries that fend off those cheap shot Hollywood influences in their countries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tD6QshaqmA
This is the Siggy, your brotherly fellow, who also sometimes comes here with his jaw-dropping antics like in that youtube.
Bint,
Homeland hegemony doesn’t matter for Black people because, despite all the racism they face, they are seen as Americans. One could argue that American pop culture itself provides plenty of cultural hegemony for Black America.
Well, may be those WM/AF movies are just a reflection of the life. Women tend to marry to money and status, men (both AM and WM) can offer Asian women with that. Now people in China become wealthier, those men who have difficulties to get a wife in China can easily find a beauty in Vietnam. Many Chinese men who went to Russia also bring back Russian wives. It is more about economics than anything else.
Hypergamy is universal. I might add it is in all women, so I’m not singling out Asian women.
You think by citing black men you are refuting Western hegemony as a cause? You act as if any poor black male could pick up any woman out there if he wanted LOL. Haha, I think you guys are just desperate to take down Western hegemony as a cause, because you would rather deal with weak, insecure Asian men… than me.
I don’t blame you though. If I were you, I’d be scared too.
re: why Black men can get women
Black men are more likely to date/sleep with women because they have the following positive stereotypes:
-Athletic
-Have swagger
-Big penis stereotype
-Tall and dark
All these stereotypes help them get girls.
Here are the bad stereotypes
-Bad boy
-Thug
These bad stereotypes STILL HELP THEM GET GIRLS (maybe not as a husband but certainly as a fling)
Now look at the positive stereotypes of Asian men.
-smart
-educated
-good income
-family oriented
NONE OF THIS actually makes women horny. NONE – except a gold digger. No woman is looking to sleep with your education or brains.
Here are the bad stereotypes of Asian men.
-micropenis
-awkward
-nerdy
-loser
-shy
-asexual
-sneaky
-short
I explain all these factors and more on my site and how Asian men can fix their dating lives. Short of a shift is the world’s balance of power away from white guys spewing lies about everyone else, it’ll be up to Asian men to do the heavy lifting.
asianmancure.com
I agree with Chr that Black men are more extroverted and more aggressive in chasing women.
My kids school admits a few black kids from inner city each year. Those black boys have no fear to chase white girls from wealthier middle and upper middle class families in the school. My son told me that one of the boys asked more than 10 girls out in a few months when they were in 7th grade. Even though he got rejected by all, he didn’t care, still keeps doing it.
If an AM has the guts like that black boy, I don’t think he will have problem to date women of any race.
I feel you guys are lost.
@awake and alive
I agree with you on many points but I feel you see it too black and white. Yes, there’s racism but Asian guys, in general, don’t do enough. If all women observe they don’t get hit on by Asian men then whose fault is that? We can blame the racist media for making us shyer, but why do some Asian guys get girls? It’s unfair but it’s not an impossible challenge that requires a complete shift in power – although, a more balanced world power dynamic would be nice.
ChineseMom,
If movies were a reflection of life, then Hollywood wouldn’t be shoehorning in white guys into Asian historical movies.
All of you folks using black males as the sort of IR to aspire to are begging the question, and falling prey to stereotypes. Percentage wise, they aren’t doing well in IR, DESPITE the fact that you SEE some of them being more aggressive. You are making the assumptions they are doing well in IR based on what? Are you comparing them just by sheers numbers instead of percentage and forget to take into consideration their population far exceed asians??
@YunXu
Eh, I agree that everyone ought to constantly self-improve, but from my experience, having racial hangups while you go aggressive and approach girls, while you attempt to communicate to a large audience — is the surest way to blow out your chances for success. Women, and people in general can sense if you are hiding something, and in this case, it’s your deep inner belief that you are inferior. I don’t know how I got here, but lately, I feel quite confident and secure. At least from a racial perspective, I don’t have a single shred of insecurity regarding my race — and I love the feeling. On the flip side, I’m pretty mad at America and Western hegemony. And regardless, I really do think I understand the source — that Western hegemony is ultimately to blame, regardless of how badly guys like TheBlah and JohnDoe, and others working at the US State Dept. would like us to believe otherwise, and have us internalize their pathetic stereotypes instead. Their usage of black men as IR champions is a pretty weak counter argument.
So WM, stop pretending that your socially privileged ass isn’t the source of your good fortune, and don’t pretend that if you didn’t have such a station in life that you would receive the luck that you do. Once you lose that privileged position, you will see how fortunate you really are — there is nothing inherently superior about you, despite what you would have us believe.
And YunXu, otherwise yeah it’s important to self improve. I just don’t like how you’ve used shaming Asian men as pathetic weaklings to motivate them to take initiative. Why not use the reality, which is Western hegemony, as the real source for motivating others? Consider it in your website, it is also a viable way for attracting clientele. Other than that, good luck with your proponency for self improvement.
Just an example in contrasts, in contemporary media:
Hollywood / American Broadcasting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yQULP-P5q8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2f13chid8Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPT7UjNT3xo
Real life reactions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlqHozuyd1M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU4NpVtTp4Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpAhz_4V37Y
Finally, some angry white guy haters (LOL):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIUoBQLV4rQ
I wonder if that is Sengge, TheBlah, and Moroboshi, or (insert random loser) in that last video??
After seeing that, you guys still wonder why I’d rather go international? Oh man, if I had to watch AMERICAN media of what I was supposed to be, they’re right — I might just go throw myself on a sword!!!!
@awake and alive
I don’t get why my message seems different that what your interpretations. I’ll try again.
“having racial hangups while you go aggressive and approach girls, while you attempt to communicate to a large audience â is the surest way to blow out your chances for success. Women, and people in general can sense if you are hiding something, and in this case, itâs your deep inner belief that you are inferior”
I constantly point out that much of our problems are due to media stereotyping. I also mention that women don’t get approached by Asian men or only very rarely. In other words, yes there is racism (I never denied this), but Asian guys are not approaching. Let’s say all the racist media went away tomorrow. Asian guys STILL wouldn’t approach. Is that clear?
“And YunXu, otherwise yeah itâs important to self improve. I just donât like how youâve used shaming Asian men as pathetic weaklings to motivate them to take initiative”
I never said they were pathetic weaklings. I said there is a very big tendency to just stick their heads in the sand. I’m glad you stick up for yourself, but I sense it’s an exception to the rule.
Western hegemony, as the real source for motivating others? Consider it in your website, it is also a viable way for attracting clientele.
I did mention this before, but I think people need to bed fed the red pill one piece at a time otherwise they can’t really handle it.
On the subject of Asian social identity, can anyone answer me why one commentor on this blog, a western born Asian, is comment after comment, fired up with zeal ,about fighting western Hegemony, compared to the western born so called ‘whiners’who remain in the west, despite not having a clear blueprint as to how western born Asians will create change for Asians in the west?
When it comes to social identity in the west we have limited options except waiting it out, and hoping, like an ostrich sticking its head in the ground, for our Asian social identity to solve itself, but fact is, anything else is better than what we have right now.
The media patronizingly giving attention to an Asiaphile to sympathise with the plight of Asian males is a new low, and unlike riling against obvious Hollywood racism like the Last Airbender, this kind of racism is a double blow to Asian social identity because
1. IR is not even publicly acknowledged by the Asian community as a problem (
2. A white male has been actor is giving the voice to the voiceless Asian male, who to the mainstream , think he is doing Asians a favour and that if Asian males complain, we are ungrateful
Thanks to this issue being considered a non-issue plus Asians too scared to speak out against Hollywood stars because we’ve been trained to worship by first name status, this issue will go unnoticed because Asian community do not have the ability to deal with this.
Meanwhile if there is a complaint from Asian guys, we will be seen as ‘whiney’ from the mainstream ( white society and some sellouts, and probably one or two regular commentors on this blog I can think of who believe that race is an artificially constructed scientific concept despite commenting ad nauseum on the same race blog for 2+ years).
This interview is clear indication that the agenda hasnt changed – Asian male media representation will continue to exist on an ever shifting puddle of quicksand, and media-wise, nothing will change for us, all the more reason to looking at representation from the east.
At least there, patronizing media interviews like this will be a drop in the ocean, compared to the thirsty man in the desert syndrome Asian males currently have in the US.
I thought Cage couldn’t disappoint me any more after Wicker Man.
Life in America cannot compare to life in Asia. The only issue is money. Anyone who has lived in Asia can agree.
PS: Byron ya shouldn’t have gone to Japan, although Japan is cool and I’ve been, you probably couldn’t speak the language well enough.
Then why you didn’t stay in Asia?
Haha!
Awake, feel free to answer Chr’s question, but please also do so on your thread. You’re derailing again.
http://www.bigwowo.com/2013/07/back-to-the-motherland-podcast/
Thanks.
MONEYYYYYYYYY
Hegemony = Where the money is at.
HYPERGAMY!!!
asian american men seem to be such pussies in terms of approaching. whine, hope and pray things will get better instead of taking action. maybe asian kids growing up need to play some more contact sports. train hard, work hard, overcome obstacles and compete.
what sports do asian kids growing up play? badminton, tennis, golf? do some mma, basketball, football.
Sign the petition and spread it so we can nail these shitheads.
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@asianguy
what sports do asian kids growing up play? badminton, tennis, golf? do some mma, basketball, football.
i totally agree. it starts at a very young age. too many parents steer their children in that direction instead of those sports. i wasn’t the biggest guy back in day, but i still participated in basketball and football in high school. and did a bit of wrestling in college. it did wonders in my confidence and self esteem.
anyway.. where is the unity? from my personal experiences, we are not in the same boat man. we are all doing our own shit and not unified for a common goal. some of my friends seem to be the same way. non-Asians don’t give a shit what Asian you are..we are all the same to them.
blacks unite, they care for each other, they have each others backs..however..Asians on the other hand don’t seem to care(at least not enough of us) or are segmented into different groups.
Asian Guy said:what sports do asian kids growing up play? badminton, tennis, golf? do some mma, basketball, football.
Badminton has become a racially coded sport, at least from where I from (i.e. making fun of badminton is essentially making fun of Asian kids), but there’s nothing wrong with tennis and golf. It’s just that when Asians play it, it’s considered wussy. But when White guys play it, they’re seen as cool and sophisticated. Nobody’s going around calling Rafael Nadal a sissy. From my experience, varsity golf and tennis players are usually popular with preppy girls. At least if they’re White, that is.
Pozhal,
Again, Asian Men have an image problem. People perceive the average Asian guy as small, non-athletic, less masculine in looks, etc..etc..the whole nine yards. You get the picture.
Just deleted a bunch of stuff. Sorry if I accidentally deleted something that wasn’t pure PUA, but this wasn’t supposed to be a PUA thread at all.
Not sure if people read this one, but here it is again:
http://www.bigwowo.com/2013/10/how-to-stay-off-the-bottom-tier-of-my-commenter-list-or-how-to-intelligently-promote-asian-american-activism/
PUA comments in the PUA threads. Please! Thanks!
What’s wrong with badminton?
I admit, I play badminton, and coach it, and I don’t feel that there’s anything wrong with that. Indeed, if Asian guys stop playing badminton, is that not a rejection of their culture, in a way?
Of course, I don’t believe Asians should stick to only badminton of course. Team sports with a bit of physicality are important too. I started out playing badminton but soccer and basketball have played a much bigger role in my life. I would recommend sports like those, not primarily because it might toughen you up, but there’s a social element there which is important too. Team-bonding, male cameraderie, learning to cooperate with others, etc.
Working in the school system I’ve also noticed how people can form bonds through sport that they might not normally make otherwise. At a school where I used to work, I saw kids of a variety of different ethnic backgrounds, including some new migrants who spoke little English, becoming friends because they built up a bond on the basketball court. Being really skilled in a team sport is a good way to garner respect and ward off potential bullying.
ES,
There’s nothing wrong with badminton. If a group of Whites were playing badminton, it would be seen as cool. It’s the image problem that AMs have, such that people view them in negative terms with preconceived associations and stereotypes. AMs would be seen with even more reprimand, if they were to engage in activities outside of their usual realm and perhaps perform well in them. For example, when Linsanity was a phenomenon, many non-Asians had hard time stomaching the notion that an Asian guy can be very good at basketball, where Jeremy got many backlash reactions from the public. Now on the other hand, if there was a Black guy who was a top brain surgeon or engineer, the public reaction will be for the most part positive.
There’s this lingering image of the Asian man in America as being “the other”, different, inscrutable and threatening at times.
Hmm, I didn’t know that badminton is an Asian thing. In our area, a lot of White people own a ping pang table or a badminton set. People play them during the parties. As for the school sports, a lot of Chinese kids swim and play tennis.
Eurasian Sensation,
The problem can be summed up like this:
It’s not that Asians are uncool because they play badminton, it’s that badminton is uncool because Asians play it.
So the idea is to get Asians to play sports played by Whites and Blacks. Either the non-Asians will have to ditch their own sports because they’ve become “tainted” by Asians, or they’ll be forced to recognize Asians as equals on the playing field.
Badminton suffers from the fact that the thing being batted around has a most unfortunate name.
This sports talk reminds me of : http://www.8asians.com/2010/04/15/snls-the-masters-âÂÂif-asians-and-indians-can-compete-with-black-people-itâÂÂs-not-a-sportâÂÂ/
Just watching videos of Alice Kim with Nick Cage, she comes across as a subservient Asian courtesan or mistress, who keeps quiet by his side when seen in public. He really got what he wanted.
I wouldn’t be in her shoes, it’s almost unhuman to be in that position.
Wasn’t she some waitress when she met him? Regardless of her race, she hit the jackpot in terms of obtaining at least financial security (unless they signed a pre-nup). I’d be way more upset if some famous AF actress married some white low-life construction worker or something.
@ Chr:
Is that not just racial stereotyping on your part? Some people are just reserved. And since she’s not in showbiz herself, is that not reasonable. I don’t think if Cage had married a white waitress that anyone would refer to her as a subservient courtesan or mistress.
Eurasian Sensation,
Matt Damon married some bartender from Argentina, I think. While I never thought that she was his servant or anything, I thought that the power imbalance was definitely notable. Celebrities probably get sick of dating each other, especially since they’re so busy all the time and there’s a lot of PR at stake on both sides. I always thought that it was a great change of pace for someone like Matt Damon to marry a “commoner.”
Yes, you could say that I was stereotyping. But there is a grain of truth to say many AFs are a lot more reserved in public than White women who are usually more outspoken, either because Asians generally feel that they need to play second fiddle to Whites or that Asians are generally conditioned to be less verbally inclined when compared to Whites, as a racial minority.
I guess female hypergamy is what led Alice to marry Nick, after his 2 failed marriages, where she’s now involved with a sort of a mentally unstable guy, who has a lot of emotional baggage from his past relationships.