Jon Huntsman Speaks Chinese and Explains Relationship with China

Jon Huntsman, former U.S. Ambassador to China and now candidate for the presidency, sounds very reasonable with respect to China, which unfortunately means that he’s got an uphill battle in securing the Republican nomination. Outside of the China issue, I have no idea what his positions are; they aren’t prominent on his blog. He’s probably trying to play it safe by staying out of the limelight and letting Bachmann and Perry clown themselves into parodies. A very Sun-Tzu-like strategy. (Thanks, KC.)

31 thoughts on “Jon Huntsman Speaks Chinese and Explains Relationship with China

  1. I don’t think it really matters who wins the Republican nomination, anyone can beat Obama. The media is going to work overtime again to carry him across the finish line, but it is not going to be able to sell Obama this time around since people now can actually see his multitudes of failures rather than having to rely on solely the media hype. The Democrats are stuck with him. They can’t challenge him and he can’t quit either. Obama is going to turn out to be a bigger disaster for the Democrats than Carter.

  2. You think Bachmann and Perry can beat Obama?

    Well, I guess if people want to vote for a real Reagan conservative, Bachmann is probably the correct choice. Just the other day, she talked about fearing the rise of the “Soviet Union.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/08/bachmann-americans-fear-the-rise-of-the-soviet-union/#.Tk6h5NlaTFM.twitter

    Man, we’re having an 80’s theme here. First Gong Li is dating John Cusack, and now Bachmann is trying to find ways to compete with Gorbachev. “You can run but you can’t hide!” Lol.

  3. Anybody can beat Obama. Other than blacks, no other group is going to be as energized as they were in 2008, especially his much talked about youth vote. Can you imagine unemployed 20 and 30 somethings living in their parents’ basement coming out in droves for yet another round of hope and change? The Independents have turned decidedly against him, moderate Republicans that voted for him last time, certainly won’t be doing it this time. Liberals will still vote for him, but turnout will be much lower than 2008. He won 53% of the vote last time, he’ll be lucky if he gets over 43% this time around.

  4. Don’t forget he also won 2 Grammy awards as well! I hear his golf swing and jump shot has gotten a lot better too in the last 2 years.

  5. JT:

    “Anybody can beat Obama. ”

    This is obviously conjecture, as is my thought that there is no way Americans will vote for Bachmann.

    But let me ask a serious question: Don’t you think it’s problematic if anyone can beat Obama? I mean, if you’re right (and I don’t believe you are, but let’s do a hypothetical), the idea that “I’ll vote for anyone but him” really does indicate a lack of intelligent and rational thought going into people’s decision on who to vote for.

  6. “This is obviously conjecture, as is my thought that there is no way Americans will vote for Bachmann.”

    Of course it’s conjecture, we are talking about something that hasn’t happened yet. I just don’t see how he can win with the way things are, especially since he only got 3% over the 50% mark in 2008 when Obamamania was at its fevered pitch. Sure, the media will be working hard to get Obama re-elected but he is not a blank slate like he was in 2008 anymore, he’s a proven record of failure. He can’t run on hope and change anymore, the hope is gone, and the change has been for the worse. What’s his motto this time? “Don’t blame me, I am just the President”? I don’t see how Obama can win unless there is massive voter fraud.

    “But let me ask a serious question: Don’t you think it’s problematic if anyone can beat Obama? I mean, if you’re right (and I don’t believe you are, but let’s do a hypothetical), the idea that “I’ll vote for anyone but him” really does indicate a lack of intelligent and rational thought going into people’s decision on who to vote for.”

    I think it’s problematic a guy like Obama, a pure product of the media’s creation could get elected in the first place. The whole Obama mythos is based on a media fabricated lie. What would really indicate a lack of intelligence and rational thought is to vote for him again, after being duped the first time.

  7. JT:

    Are you planning to vote FOR the next President, or are you just voting AGAINST Obama? If Obama were running against a person with zero experience, say, the Balloon Boy’s dad, would you vote for Balloon Boy’s dad?

    I disagree that he has a record of total failure, although I will agree that he wasn’t as aggressive as he needed to be in fostering an atmosphere of job creation (although to be fair to him, lots of Republicans were simply trying to sink the ship for political gain). He also should’ve fought harder for tax reform.

    My point is that your statement seems to indicate that ANYONE can beat him, and that it doesn’t matter who runs against him. That, to me, is sheer lunacy, the idea that “I won’t even have to look at who I’m voting FOR because I’m never voting for Obama.” I don’t think that the American people think that way. The Republicans have yet to produce a decent candidate other than maybe Huntsman, and regardless of how bad the economy is, I don’t think that people are going to blindly vote AGAINST Obama without carefully scrutinizing who they are voting FOR.

  8. When I say anyone, I mean anyone that is running, I am obviously not talking about Osama bin Laden, or balloon boy or whatever. If you look at all the possible candidates from both parties (including those Democrats from 2008), Obama is simply the worst choice. This is not blindly voting against Obama.

    To be really accurate, Obama and the Democrats had control of both houses of Congress for 2 years and all they did was pile on the debt and prolong the recession. The election in 2012 will basically be a referendum on Obama and anyone but Obama, it’s going to be brutal for other Democrats up for re-election in 2012. We obviously don’t agree on how the results will turn out, so we’ll see.

  9. JT:

    “When I say anyone, I mean anyone that is running, I am obviously not talking about Osama bin Laden, or balloon boy or whatever. ”

    Osama Bin Laden is dead. George W. Bush made the decision to send in the Seals, who killed him, remember?

    Oh no, that was done by Obama. Never mind.

    So you’d seriously vote for Michelle Bachmann before Obama. I find that absolutely astounding. Sarah Palin too? Rick Perry?

  10. @BigWowo

    Of course I would! Any of them would be head and shoulders better than Obama. What are the reasons you’d think Obama would be better?

  11. I’m not super happy with Obama. He should’ve fought the Republicans on their senseless insistence on extending tax cuts for the wealthy. He should’ve focused more on putting more resources towards research to find where the government could help stimulate the creation of jobs. He should’ve gone after the Republican stonewalling that is failing the country. He should’ve called them out and let the American people know. He should be enlisting the help of business leaders like Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, George Soros, and even Russell Simmons to help spread the message of how we can pay off debt and live with each other. He hasn’t done enough.

    However, he prevented the economy from going into freefall with his protection of the housing market. Stimulus prevented a second Great Depression. He killed Osama, and Libya is going down. When he speaks, he’s logical and intelligent. Unlike Bachmann, he knows that the Soviet Union collapsed years ago and that neither the Soviet Union NOR Russia is a threat. He knows that government is responsible for the welfare of the people, and that a libertarian approach has never historically worked in solving a financial crisis. He’s smart on China.

    My main reason for not voting for him would be the stimulation of jobs. I haven’t yet heard a strong message on what needs to be done to help the private sector create jobs.

    If you want my honest opinion, I think you’re voting with your emotions and your hatred of the man. It’s your vote, and I won’t tell you how to use it, but emotional decisions usually lead to bad outcomes.

  12. Interesting. And what about Bachmann and Perry? What makes you think they are clowns? And why do you like Huntsman? In your original post you said you like him because of his views on China but don’t know much else about him. Does that mean you dislike Bachmann and Perry’s views on China?

  13. See, that’s the difference between you and me. I usually vote FOR someone. You’re voting AGAINST someone.

    Take it from a liberal: the world isn’t out to get you.

  14. I was asking you what you liked and didn’t like about the candidates. Since you called Bachmann and Perry clowns, I wanted to know why you thought that. I don’t know what triggered the world is out to get me comment. Did I say the world is out to get me? For someone who routinely tell people not to make unsupported assumptions, you seem to have a habit do the exact opposite.

  15. “For someone who routinely tell people not to make unsupported assumptions, you seem to have a habit do the exact opposite.”

    No, I don’t think so.

    You’ve been going off on how you’d vote for “ANYONE” rather than Obama with nary a statement on anything these “anyone” people stand for. That’s a position that comes from fear, from running AWAY from someone rather than towards a goal. Even after Bush’s first term, after that whole baseless war, while the economy tanked, I never ever said that I’d vote for ANYONE other than Bush. Certainly I’d vote for almost anyone, but a person couldn’t just take my vote for granted without proving he/she had a better agenda.

    From what you’ve said, your relationship with Obama is quite different.

  16. One of the few “good” things about the Obama regime is that he’s inadvertently exposed the Democrats and their supposedly Liberal/Progressive supporters as being warmongers and militarists similar to their hated Right Wing Republican rivals.

    Nobel Peace Prize winner Barack Obama has continued America’s colonial occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan begun by George Bush, and he has launched a new war … sorry, “kinetic military action” against Libya, while also bombing Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen.

    When Bush was in power, these Democrats protested “Bush’s wars.” But when Democrats are in power, these same liberals either directly support war or have quietly dropped their antiwar opposition.

    That’s hope and change for you!

  17. Are Romney or Bachman in the Council on Foreign Relations? Only people in the Council of Foreign Relations can be presidents. Either that, or CIA chiefs, et cetera. Any other presidential contender is just a stooge or clown meant to make the real candidate look good.

    I sort of pity Obama. He was given a poisoned chalice and then he had his hands tied. Even giving him the Nobel Peace Prize in advance can’t make up for that. 8*(

    It’s good that everybody is doing their hardest to ignore Ron Paul. This means that kind old man won’t be assassinated. 8)

  18. Apparently BigWOWO readers aren’t aware of all of teh internets, http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

    As for Bachmann and Rick Perry, if you’re for climate change denial, dismantling Social Security, ending Medicare as we know it, more wars, more torture, deregulating pretty much everything, no public schools, rewriting the Civil War and Civil Rights movement, cleansing the gays, the top 2% not paying taxes, letting our country default, and having poor children suffer (that’s not everything) by all means vote for them! Our country is gonna rock when they’re done with it!

    Huntsman is a dying breed of quasi-reasonable Republicans who seem caught off guard by how extreme their party has become. Maybe when he was in China he didn’t have access to Fox News? I don’t think he’s running for the near term, however perhaps 2016. The current state of the Republican party has no place for Huntsman, no matter how much the high-brow GOP would like him to…regardless he isn’t much to clamor about, a rather boring Reagan loving Republican who occasionally says intelligent things that perk our ears because we’ve become so used to the off-kilter nonsense spewed from candidates like Perry and Bachmann.

    Also too, for both sides, “it’s the economy stupid.” The private sector can’t create jobs and the government needs to provide more stimulus, but we can’t because of the Republicans and our toxic media debate. I suggest reading what Fed Chair Bernanke said this week, http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2011/08/analysis-bernanke-highlights-september.html.

    XOXO,

    Frank

  19. Byron,

    The loss of jobs numbers began to take a nosedive after 9/11, and it hasn’t been rebounding to where we want it to be. That is, the level of what we had in the mid 90s -pre Y2K era. Alot of people have been underemployed ever since. What makes you think the Obama guys will have the solution, when in fact we are in worse shape than before?

    “By the way, I am looking forward to the jobs announcement next month. It’s good that it’s on the agenda. Some columnists are starting to write about it:…Hopefully the Republicans won’t oppose progress in this area. There are lots of unemployed or underemployed Republicans too!”

  20. So, what do you think is the likelihood that America slides further and further irrevocably towards fascism?

  21. Jon Stewart on The Daily Show pointed out the other day that Huntsman effectively disqualified himself from whatever little shot at candidacy he had, once he stated that the Republican Party needs to stop rejecting science when it comes to climate change and evolution, and get with the times.

    It looks like Perry is your next President, sadly. He’s the kind of guy a lot of Americans seem to love, because he talks tough. (Obama talks sensible, which for some reason is not popular.) Perry is basically Dubya Mark II, without appearing to be quite as dumb.

  22. Herr Perry as der next Fuhre – I mean President? Jaja, das is gut!

    Amerika vill haff a STRONG leader now.

  23. “Jon Stewart on The Daily Show pointed out the other day that Huntsman effectively disqualified himself from whatever little shot at candidacy he had, once he stated that the Republican Party needs to stop rejecting science when it comes to climate change and evolution, and get with the times.

    It looks like Perry is your next President, sadly. He’s the kind of guy a lot of Americans seem to love, because he talks tough. (Obama talks sensible, which for some reason is not popular.) Perry is basically Dubya Mark II, without appearing to be quite as dumb.”

    It’s so formulaic, don’t you think? Lol!

    I think that the idea that only candidates that can appeal to the absolute lowest possible common denominator can be President is just one of those ideas that pundits and other people in the business of “guiding” public opinion love to believe. Them, and they alone.

    Are American people really THAT stupid?

    But what would happen if Americans suddenly turned around and got smart? Maybe that’s something corporate influenced media doesn’t want you to hear about.

    ROFL

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