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		<title>By: Alley Michel</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2010/02/where-the-black-man-is-kingflashforwards-ir-pairing/#comment-12125</link>
		<dc:creator>Alley Michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2011 00:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across this page as I was looking up posts on the topic:

For the most, part I saw some very disturbing posts from people with all sorts of opinions on the matter, who perpetuated, in their own way, racism against either Blacks or Asians.

See these links for examples: 
- http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t247219.html
- http://www.chinasmack.com/2009/pictures/chinese-black-couple-shanghai-metro.html

and here:
http://www.chinasmack.com/2011/pictures/chinese-men-with-black-women-african-wives.html

The negative came up more than comments about supporting interracial relationships (namely, BF/AM couples). I&#039;ve written about this in my blog, which is too much to post on this page but can be found here:

http://alleystavern.blogspot.com/

Good luck, to the world,

Alley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across this page as I was looking up posts on the topic:</p>
<p>For the most, part I saw some very disturbing posts from people with all sorts of opinions on the matter, who perpetuated, in their own way, racism against either Blacks or Asians.</p>
<p>See these links for examples:<br />
- <a href="http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t247219.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t247219.html</a><br />
- <a href="http://www.chinasmack.com/2009/pictures/chinese-black-couple-shanghai-metro.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chinasmack.com/2009/pictures/chinese-black-couple-shanghai-metro.html</a></p>
<p>and here:<br />
<a href="http://www.chinasmack.com/2011/pictures/chinese-men-with-black-women-african-wives.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chinasmack.com/2011/pictures/chinese-men-with-black-women-african-wives.html</a></p>
<p>The negative came up more than comments about supporting interracial relationships (namely, BF/AM couples). I&#8217;ve written about this in my blog, which is too much to post on this page but can be found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://alleystavern.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://alleystavern.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>Good luck, to the world,</p>
<p>Alley</p>
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		<title>By: jaehwan</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2010/02/where-the-black-man-is-kingflashforwards-ir-pairing/#comment-8949</link>
		<dc:creator>jaehwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing your story, Mercedes.  I&#039;m really sorry to hear what happened to you.  Please keep up the good fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing your story, Mercedes.  I&#8217;m really sorry to hear what happened to you.  Please keep up the good fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Mercedes</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2010/02/where-the-black-man-is-kingflashforwards-ir-pairing/#comment-8944</link>
		<dc:creator>Mercedes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking as an African American woman with no chip on her shoulder but was handed down the same sterotypical generational curse, I hit the override button everytime. I won&#039;t be typecasted through life because of the color of my skin. I was an only child, but I was smart, no I showed hints of geniusness at 7. But because of certain mentalitiies around me, and the perpetuated status quo, it was unpopular to be intelligent and not want to have premarital sex, children out of wedlock, a thug as a mate, no educatation. Yada, yada, yada

So I bucked the systems set up by my forefathers/mothers, I went to college (excelled), I went into the U.S. Air Force (excelled), I recorded an album(success), designed a fashion and accessory line(success),  wrote a poetry book(success). I believe I was humble the whole way through.

Now I am in my mid thirties, finishing my bachelors to become a art teacher. I am disliked by many of my peers, many of my relatives (female), and taunted, tormented by black men, who find me disgusting to be able to take care of myself, and have no children. I have never done anything to black men but exist for God. Yes I do believe in my creator. Black men come to me as wounded soldiers, and they want me to take the burden and blame for all the things some other women have done to them. When in essence I am not looking for marriage or babies, I want a life of purpose, with God in it, and I don&#039;t want to have to rely on ppl for my welfare.

Is that wrong to want to be able to feed and clothe myself. Every human is entitled to have their basic needs met. Just because I am black doesn&#039;t mean I have to apologize for being blessed. I would prefer that ppl who use, abuse, mistreat one another to work it out and leave me alone, and allow me to do what I came to do.

Not every black woman is out to destroy the black man, and take all his money. As for the sex issue, its the black man who raped me,If I had my choice, I&#039;de still be a virgin, and would&#039;ve saved myself for my husband, If I chose to marry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as an African American woman with no chip on her shoulder but was handed down the same sterotypical generational curse, I hit the override button everytime. I won&#8217;t be typecasted through life because of the color of my skin. I was an only child, but I was smart, no I showed hints of geniusness at 7. But because of certain mentalitiies around me, and the perpetuated status quo, it was unpopular to be intelligent and not want to have premarital sex, children out of wedlock, a thug as a mate, no educatation. Yada, yada, yada</p>
<p>So I bucked the systems set up by my forefathers/mothers, I went to college (excelled), I went into the U.S. Air Force (excelled), I recorded an album(success), designed a fashion and accessory line(success),  wrote a poetry book(success). I believe I was humble the whole way through.</p>
<p>Now I am in my mid thirties, finishing my bachelors to become a art teacher. I am disliked by many of my peers, many of my relatives (female), and taunted, tormented by black men, who find me disgusting to be able to take care of myself, and have no children. I have never done anything to black men but exist for God. Yes I do believe in my creator. Black men come to me as wounded soldiers, and they want me to take the burden and blame for all the things some other women have done to them. When in essence I am not looking for marriage or babies, I want a life of purpose, with God in it, and I don&#8217;t want to have to rely on ppl for my welfare.</p>
<p>Is that wrong to want to be able to feed and clothe myself. Every human is entitled to have their basic needs met. Just because I am black doesn&#8217;t mean I have to apologize for being blessed. I would prefer that ppl who use, abuse, mistreat one another to work it out and leave me alone, and allow me to do what I came to do.</p>
<p>Not every black woman is out to destroy the black man, and take all his money. As for the sex issue, its the black man who raped me,If I had my choice, I&#8217;de still be a virgin, and would&#8217;ve saved myself for my husband, If I chose to marry.</p>
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		<title>By: Black Women Deserve Better &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Traci 07/10/10 II &#8211; Random Thoughts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Women Deserve Better &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Traci 07/10/10 II &#8211; Random Thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 19:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blue (don&#8217;t know the actors names), Flash Forward (Asian male and Gabrielle Union http://www.bigwowo.com/2010/02/where-the-black-man-is-kingflashforwards-ir-pairing/) and the show before that &#8211; a lawyer show with Nicole Air Parker and her husband was Billy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Blue (don&#8217;t know the actors names), Flash Forward (Asian male and Gabrielle Union <a href="http://www.bigwowo.com/2010/02/where-the-black-man-is-kingflashforwards-ir-pairing/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bigwowo.com/2010/02/where-the-black-man-is-kingflashforwards-ir-pairing/</a>) and the show before that &#8211; a lawyer show with Nicole Air Parker and her husband was Billy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 03:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not have to defend a man.  However, his initial ARTICLE was about am/bw relationships.  That article did not say anything in reference to hooking up just for the sake of sex.  Also, whatever those am are saying  in reference to ww or aw well these women will have to speak for themselves.

All of you are men...get into the ring and go at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not have to defend a man.  However, his initial ARTICLE was about am/bw relationships.  That article did not say anything in reference to hooking up just for the sake of sex.  Also, whatever those am are saying  in reference to ww or aw well these women will have to speak for themselves.</p>
<p>All of you are men&#8230;get into the ring and go at it.</p>
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		<title>By: King</title>
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		<dc:creator>King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PUA &quot;site&quot; not &quot;sight&quot;

geez</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PUA &#8220;site&#8221; not &#8220;sight&#8221;</p>
<p>geez</p>
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		<title>By: King</title>
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		<dc:creator>King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... Now, how did she come to that obvious conclusion? I wonder why she didn&#039;t see the PUA sight for what it really was—A place for Asian guys to &quot;Get better at approaching women?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; Now, how did she come to that obvious conclusion? I wonder why she didn&#8217;t see the PUA sight for what it really was—A place for Asian guys to &#8220;Get better at approaching women?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jaehwan</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2010/02/where-the-black-man-is-kingflashforwards-ir-pairing/#comment-4006</link>
		<dc:creator>jaehwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 07:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha!  Ann, when I first went to that blackfemaleinterracialmarriage site, I saw the Asian Playboy being touted as a good thing.  There was a big picture of his smiling mug.  We&#039;ve had &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bigwowo.com/2008/12/the-post-pua-era-of-the-asian-american-blogosphere/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;our issues&lt;/a&gt; with those people.  When I just went back, I read this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;THANK YOU, Ann for the article about the Asian guy who seemed to be mainly promoting long term, committed relationships or marriages between AA women and Asian men. I didn&#039;t check out his actual site prior to posting the article...

However, according to one of the commenters who went to this Asian guy&#039;s actual site, she says the site actually involves a business teaching Asian men how to be better &quot;pickup&quot; artists and is seemingly infested with Asian men who are obssessed with simply scoring the &quot;P&quot; from white women. LOL!  I certainly don&#039;t want to help Asian men to score the &quot;P&quot; from bw.

I don&#039;t have a problem with men giving men tips on how to approach women for reasons that will promote the betterment of women and men, but I do have a problem with men teaching men how to pick up white, black, or ANY woman JUST FOR empty SEX. That is SELFISH and one-sided. It&#039;s USING a woman &#039;s body as a semen dump and it has disastrous consequences like serious chronic or terminal DISEASES, unwanted children, abortions, and MOSTLY causes major distrust between men and women and lifelong emotional PAIN, in many instances. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good call for Evia!  I&#039;m glad to see that even though there&#039;s a disparity, black women and Asian men are still maintaining high standards and making sure that we&#039;re on the right path.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha!  Ann, when I first went to that blackfemaleinterracialmarriage site, I saw the Asian Playboy being touted as a good thing.  There was a big picture of his smiling mug.  We&#8217;ve had <a href="http://www.bigwowo.com/2008/12/the-post-pua-era-of-the-asian-american-blogosphere/" rel="nofollow">our issues</a> with those people.  When I just went back, I read this:</p>
<blockquote><p>THANK YOU, Ann for the article about the Asian guy who seemed to be mainly promoting long term, committed relationships or marriages between AA women and Asian men. I didn&#8217;t check out his actual site prior to posting the article&#8230;</p>
<p>However, according to one of the commenters who went to this Asian guy&#8217;s actual site, she says the site actually involves a business teaching Asian men how to be better &#8220;pickup&#8221; artists and is seemingly infested with Asian men who are obssessed with simply scoring the &#8220;P&#8221; from white women. LOL!  I certainly don&#8217;t want to help Asian men to score the &#8220;P&#8221; from bw.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with men giving men tips on how to approach women for reasons that will promote the betterment of women and men, but I do have a problem with men teaching men how to pick up white, black, or ANY woman JUST FOR empty SEX. That is SELFISH and one-sided. It&#8217;s USING a woman &#8216;s body as a semen dump and it has disastrous consequences like serious chronic or terminal DISEASES, unwanted children, abortions, and MOSTLY causes major distrust between men and women and lifelong emotional PAIN, in many instances. </p></blockquote>
<p>Good call for Evia!  I&#8217;m glad to see that even though there&#8217;s a disparity, black women and Asian men are still maintaining high standards and making sure that we&#8217;re on the right path.</p>
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		<title>By: Kingstonian Tar-and-Feather &#171; big WOWO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kingstonian Tar-and-Feather &#171; big WOWO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 06:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] posted this article in the FlashForward thread.   He was posting it to say something about interracial relationships among African Americans, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jaehwan</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2010/02/where-the-black-man-is-kingflashforwards-ir-pairing/#comment-4004</link>
		<dc:creator>jaehwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 23:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann,

Thanks!  I did not know about Sam Cacas.

King,

I&#039;ll check out those stats later.  In the meantime, this is what caught my eye in that article:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Hai Nguyen, 37, of Houston recalls the instant connection she felt after meeting her first Vietnamese boyfriend, Greg, in college. Nguyen says while she had to explain herself to white boyfriends, with Greg it was a feeling that &quot;he so gets me, because we eat the same food, we like the same things, our families know each other and there is so little that needs to be said.&quot;

With the enthusiastic support of her parents, she and Greg married. &lt;strong&gt;But their connection soon began to fade, due partly to Nguyen&#039;s budding career as a business analyst, which clashed with more traditional expectations for her to &quot;always have fresh food on the table.&quot; &lt;/strong&gt;The two divorced and Nguyen is now remarried to Jon, who is &lt;strong&gt;white&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hai, no offense, sistah, but that&#039;s a low blow.  A real low blow.  Talk about using your Tan-Kingstonian stereotypes in an attempt to become part of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bigwowo.com/2010/06/asian-femal-celebrity-unio/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;AFCC.&lt;/a&gt;  I hope your White savior never asks you to cook because, of course, women traditionally have never cooked in European American households. [/sarcasm]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann,</p>
<p>Thanks!  I did not know about Sam Cacas.</p>
<p>King,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll check out those stats later.  In the meantime, this is what caught my eye in that article:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hai Nguyen, 37, of Houston recalls the instant connection she felt after meeting her first Vietnamese boyfriend, Greg, in college. Nguyen says while she had to explain herself to white boyfriends, with Greg it was a feeling that &#8220;he so gets me, because we eat the same food, we like the same things, our families know each other and there is so little that needs to be said.&#8221;</p>
<p>With the enthusiastic support of her parents, she and Greg married. <strong>But their connection soon began to fade, due partly to Nguyen&#8217;s budding career as a business analyst, which clashed with more traditional expectations for her to &#8220;always have fresh food on the table.&#8221; </strong>The two divorced and Nguyen is now remarried to Jon, who is <strong>white</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hai, no offense, sistah, but that&#8217;s a low blow.  A real low blow.  Talk about using your Tan-Kingstonian stereotypes in an attempt to become part of the <a href="http://www.bigwowo.com/2010/06/asian-femal-celebrity-unio/" rel="nofollow">AFCC.</a>  I hope your White savior never asks you to cook because, of course, women traditionally have never cooked in European American households. [/sarcasm]</p>
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