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		<title>By: phil</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2009/10/rice-chasers-and-their-victims/#comment-3199</link>
		<dc:creator>phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In respond to Etain&#039;s question have I ever confronted my sister&#039;s about their &quot;preference&quot;.

Yes. Both go into denial, get self defensive (&quot;you misunderstood what I said/meant&quot;, but then refuse to clarify what they said), &amp; then get angry (f*ck off &amp;  runs off).  Both are married to WM, one who is rich &amp; balding ; the other who doesn&#039;t say much.  I wonder if they settled for these guys  just because they&#039;re WM who will have them.  It just goes to show you how some AW (&amp; AM) have internalized a white bias (see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG7U1QsUd1g) &amp; never grow out of it because of the issues they have about themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In respond to Etain&#8217;s question have I ever confronted my sister&#8217;s about their &#8220;preference&#8221;.</p>
<p>Yes. Both go into denial, get self defensive (&#8220;you misunderstood what I said/meant&#8221;, but then refuse to clarify what they said), &amp; then get angry (f*ck off &amp;  runs off).  Both are married to WM, one who is rich &amp; balding ; the other who doesn&#8217;t say much.  I wonder if they settled for these guys  just because they&#8217;re WM who will have them.  It just goes to show you how some AW (&amp; AM) have internalized a white bias (see: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG7U1QsUd1g" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG7U1QsUd1g</a>) &amp; never grow out of it because of the issues they have about themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2009/10/rice-chasers-and-their-victims/#comment-3198</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Both have what is called &#039;internalized gendered racism&#039; often found among certain Asian Women. (You can Google this term for a full explanation of what that is).&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I Googled this term and came up with Karen Pyke&#039;s work, _Internalized Gendered Racism in Asian American Women’s Accounts of Asian and White Masculinities_.

http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/1/0/9/4/3/p109437_index.html

Using a number of interviews with Korean and Vietnamese American women, it examines how these interviewees promote White racist/gendered views of Asian (American) males.

What&#039;s interesting is that Prof. Karen Pyke herself is White, I believe.

Imagine if an Asian guy wrote this book. There would be spittle-flecked outrage and hell to pay. The work would be politically attacked as an example of an Asian guy unfairly demonizing Asian women as whitewashed sell-outs!

And even more interesting are Google&#039;s Rice Chaser/Asianphile ads found on the webpage of Pyke&#039;s work: &quot;Hookup With Sexy Asians&quot;; &quot;1000&#039;s Of Thai Women&quot;; &quot;Find An Asian Wife,&quot; &quot;Asian women look for men&quot; etc.

In other words, this White Orientalist fetish culture is totally pervasive and promoted by &quot;respectable&quot; American corporations like Google.

In America, Orientalist racism/sexism is normalized like the air you breathe.

This kind of White racist culture is like the plague, swine flu, and a very nasty STD all combined together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Both have what is called &#8216;internalized gendered racism&#8217; often found among certain Asian Women. (You can Google this term for a full explanation of what that is).&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I Googled this term and came up with Karen Pyke&#8217;s work, _Internalized Gendered Racism in Asian American Women’s Accounts of Asian and White Masculinities_.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/1/0/9/4/3/p109437_index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/1/0/9/4/3/p109437_index.html</a></p>
<p>Using a number of interviews with Korean and Vietnamese American women, it examines how these interviewees promote White racist/gendered views of Asian (American) males.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s interesting is that Prof. Karen Pyke herself is White, I believe.</p>
<p>Imagine if an Asian guy wrote this book. There would be spittle-flecked outrage and hell to pay. The work would be politically attacked as an example of an Asian guy unfairly demonizing Asian women as whitewashed sell-outs!</p>
<p>And even more interesting are Google&#8217;s Rice Chaser/Asianphile ads found on the webpage of Pyke&#8217;s work: &#8220;Hookup With Sexy Asians&#8221;; &#8220;1000&#8242;s Of Thai Women&#8221;; &#8220;Find An Asian Wife,&#8221; &#8220;Asian women look for men&#8221; etc.</p>
<p>In other words, this White Orientalist fetish culture is totally pervasive and promoted by &#8220;respectable&#8221; American corporations like Google.</p>
<p>In America, Orientalist racism/sexism is normalized like the air you breathe.</p>
<p>This kind of White racist culture is like the plague, swine flu, and a very nasty STD all combined together.</p>
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		<title>By: King</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2009/10/rice-chasers-and-their-victims/#comment-3197</link>
		<dc:creator>King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;You would think that having an Asian brother for all their lives would convince them that Asian men are “normal” men as opposed to only consuming media representations.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

You forget that brothers and fathers are always the &quot;exceptions.&quot;
Also, they are not romantic interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;You would think that having an Asian brother for all their lives would convince them that Asian men are “normal” men as opposed to only consuming media representations.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>You forget that brothers and fathers are always the &#8220;exceptions.&#8221;<br />
Also, they are not romantic interests.</p>
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		<title>By: etain</title>
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		<dc:creator>etain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always wondered about family scenarios such as Phil&#039;s. As an only child, I&#039;ve frequently thought about would would happen not only if I had siblings, but if I had a sister. What would I do if she started shunning Asian men? Would the presence of having an Asian brother affect her perceptions of Asian/white masculinity?

It&#039;s really unfortunate to hear Phil&#039;s account. You would think that having an Asian brother for all their lives would convince them that Asian men are &quot;normal&quot; men as opposed to only consuming media representations. Guess not. You would also think they&#039;d realize that they&#039;re insulting their own brother with their words and, indirectly, with their actions.

Have you ever confronted them about it, Phil?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always wondered about family scenarios such as Phil&#8217;s. As an only child, I&#8217;ve frequently thought about would would happen not only if I had siblings, but if I had a sister. What would I do if she started shunning Asian men? Would the presence of having an Asian brother affect her perceptions of Asian/white masculinity?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really unfortunate to hear Phil&#8217;s account. You would think that having an Asian brother for all their lives would convince them that Asian men are &#8220;normal&#8221; men as opposed to only consuming media representations. Guess not. You would also think they&#8217;d realize that they&#8217;re insulting their own brother with their words and, indirectly, with their actions.</p>
<p>Have you ever confronted them about it, Phil?</p>
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		<title>By: phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You shouldn&#039;t be blaming the &#039;rice chasers&#039; so much.  Alot to asian women are complicit in this as well.  It takes 2 to tango.  Both my sisters are &#039;white chasers&#039;.  They&#039;ve privately said to me disparaging things about Asian Men; that they have a &quot;preference&quot; for white men; more in common with whites, etc. etc.  Convenient rationalizations.   Both brainwashed that the standard is white.  Both have what is called &quot;internalized gendered racism&quot; often found among certain Asian Women. (You can Google this term for a full explanation of what that is).
After expressing these things to me, and watching their behavior (dissing Asian Men, etc.), I have a strained relationship with them.  It &#039;s like finding out that some of your family members are closet pedophiles; it&#039;s hard to respect them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You shouldn&#8217;t be blaming the &#8216;rice chasers&#8217; so much.  Alot to asian women are complicit in this as well.  It takes 2 to tango.  Both my sisters are &#8216;white chasers&#8217;.  They&#8217;ve privately said to me disparaging things about Asian Men; that they have a &#8220;preference&#8221; for white men; more in common with whites, etc. etc.  Convenient rationalizations.   Both brainwashed that the standard is white.  Both have what is called &#8220;internalized gendered racism&#8221; often found among certain Asian Women. (You can Google this term for a full explanation of what that is).<br />
After expressing these things to me, and watching their behavior (dissing Asian Men, etc.), I have a strained relationship with them.  It &#8216;s like finding out that some of your family members are closet pedophiles; it&#8217;s hard to respect them.</p>
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		<title>By: mT</title>
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		<dc:creator>mT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, now that&#039;s curious; only two of my curiosities have been answered.  Lol.  Unsolved mysteries ;-)

@American Girl,

As a follow up, let me ask you these.
1.  Do you honestly think that &quot;preferring to date blondes over brunettes&quot; is the same thing as &quot;preferring to date one race over your own race&quot;?
2.  Given worldwide media&#039;s constant perpetual promotion of white beauty, do you think it is really okay for a white man or woman to have a &quot;preference&quot; for Asians?   In other words do you not see that there is something inherently wrong and perverted about this?
3.  Given worldwide media&#039;s constant perpetual promotion of white beauty, do you think it is really okay for an Asian woman or man to have a &quot;preference&quot; for Whites&quot;?  In other words do you not see that there is something inherently wrong and perverted about this?
4.  Do you think there is a difference between these 2 preferences in #2 and #3?
5.  Beyond the physical and cultural attraction and preference aspect of this, who do you think carries the bigger burden when it comes to being socially aware and promoting/combating on behalf of Asian American issues (including the IR disparity)?  Whites or Asians?  Or is it just free love and as long as Asians (both men and women) don&#039;t date &quot;loser&quot; whites, then it&#039;s totally okay?

BTW, if an Asian guy or gal tells you that they prefer to date blondes over brunettes, they like the white meat.  For whites, it&#039;s a different thing all together.


&quot;I don’t date anymore. When I did, I can’t say I had a preference, but I only dated Asian, Caucasian or mixed race men because they were the only type of men in the universe of men who asked me out on a date.&quot;

Okay, fair enough answer.  What if I asked who you were more attracted to regardless of who asked you out?  Attraction happens long before some boy came along and asked you out on a date if you were a girl. Or some girl showed interest in you so you asked her out if you were a guy (because that&#039;s one thing that has stayed the same since the dawn of time despite the many social and technological advances we have achieved up to this point in the modern world).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, now that&#8217;s curious; only two of my curiosities have been answered.  Lol.  Unsolved mysteries <img src='http://www.bigwowo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@American Girl,</p>
<p>As a follow up, let me ask you these.<br />
1.  Do you honestly think that &#8220;preferring to date blondes over brunettes&#8221; is the same thing as &#8220;preferring to date one race over your own race&#8221;?<br />
2.  Given worldwide media&#8217;s constant perpetual promotion of white beauty, do you think it is really okay for a white man or woman to have a &#8220;preference&#8221; for Asians?   In other words do you not see that there is something inherently wrong and perverted about this?<br />
3.  Given worldwide media&#8217;s constant perpetual promotion of white beauty, do you think it is really okay for an Asian woman or man to have a &#8220;preference&#8221; for Whites&#8221;?  In other words do you not see that there is something inherently wrong and perverted about this?<br />
4.  Do you think there is a difference between these 2 preferences in #2 and #3?<br />
5.  Beyond the physical and cultural attraction and preference aspect of this, who do you think carries the bigger burden when it comes to being socially aware and promoting/combating on behalf of Asian American issues (including the IR disparity)?  Whites or Asians?  Or is it just free love and as long as Asians (both men and women) don&#8217;t date &#8220;loser&#8221; whites, then it&#8217;s totally okay?</p>
<p>BTW, if an Asian guy or gal tells you that they prefer to date blondes over brunettes, they like the white meat.  For whites, it&#8217;s a different thing all together.</p>
<p>&#8220;I don’t date anymore. When I did, I can’t say I had a preference, but I only dated Asian, Caucasian or mixed race men because they were the only type of men in the universe of men who asked me out on a date.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay, fair enough answer.  What if I asked who you were more attracted to regardless of who asked you out?  Attraction happens long before some boy came along and asked you out on a date if you were a girl. Or some girl showed interest in you so you asked her out if you were a guy (because that&#8217;s one thing that has stayed the same since the dawn of time despite the many social and technological advances we have achieved up to this point in the modern world).</p>
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		<title>By: American Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mT

No one calls me AG in real life.  It&#039;s just a handle.

I don&#039;t date anymore.  When I did, I can&#039;t say I had a preference, but I only dated Asian, Caucasian or mixed race men because they were the only type of men in the universe of men who asked me out on a date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mT</p>
<p>No one calls me AG in real life.  It&#8217;s just a handle.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t date anymore.  When I did, I can&#8217;t say I had a preference, but I only dated Asian, Caucasian or mixed race men because they were the only type of men in the universe of men who asked me out on a date.</p>
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		<title>By: uRB4N</title>
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		<dc:creator>uRB4N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re only a victim if you let yourself be one.  It&#039;s even more tragic when you&#039;re the one enabling yourself to be a victim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re only a victim if you let yourself be one.  It&#8217;s even more tragic when you&#8217;re the one enabling yourself to be a victim.</p>
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		<title>By: King</title>
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		<dc:creator>King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;King, are you the same King for a Day from 44s?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

The same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;King, are you the same King for a Day from 44s?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>The same.</p>
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		<title>By: mT</title>
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		<dc:creator>mT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rob.  Haven&#039;t seen you post in awhile.  Nice, interesting first post after such a long hiatus.  Are you married to an Asian?  Just curious.  Anyway, glad to see you are still lurking around (you should post more).  Welcome back.

American Girl, do you &quot;prefer&quot; dating white men?  And recalling from another thread, do your partner or husband really literally call you &quot;AG&quot; or American Girl?  Sorry, this curiosity thing Rob started is really contagious.

King, are you the same King for a Day from 44s?

Seigfried, do you have a pic or some bio information on some Asian fetish website you can provide so I can pass along to some beautiful Asian ladies who want to meet a normal, decent, smart white guy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rob.  Haven&#8217;t seen you post in awhile.  Nice, interesting first post after such a long hiatus.  Are you married to an Asian?  Just curious.  Anyway, glad to see you are still lurking around (you should post more).  Welcome back.</p>
<p>American Girl, do you &#8220;prefer&#8221; dating white men?  And recalling from another thread, do your partner or husband really literally call you &#8220;AG&#8221; or American Girl?  Sorry, this curiosity thing Rob started is really contagious.</p>
<p>King, are you the same King for a Day from 44s?</p>
<p>Seigfried, do you have a pic or some bio information on some Asian fetish website you can provide so I can pass along to some beautiful Asian ladies who want to meet a normal, decent, smart white guy?</p>
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