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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2009/06/holden-caulfield-shows-his-age/#comment-2001</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m only 20 years old, but I remember reading this book over three years ago and being enthralled by it.  It wasn&#039;t even required reading because we were running out of time at the end of the school year, but I couldn&#039;t put the book down.  As long as there are teens still trying to make sense of this world, the book will have lasting universal appeal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m only 20 years old, but I remember reading this book over three years ago and being enthralled by it.  It wasn&#8217;t even required reading because we were running out of time at the end of the school year, but I couldn&#8217;t put the book down.  As long as there are teens still trying to make sense of this world, the book will have lasting universal appeal.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy J. Aquino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy J. Aquino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of The Twilight Zone, there&#039;s one particular episode of the &#039;80s CBS revival of The Twilight Zone that&#039;s not on CBS.com but you should seek it out on DVD or the Chiller cable channel: &quot;Wong&#039;s Lost and Found Emporium,&quot; an adaptation of a story by William F. Wu (http://www.williamfwu.com/tz.html). It guest-starred Brian Tochi of Police Academy fame as an Asian American who never got over Vincent Chin&#039;s murder (which isn&#039;t referred to directly but he&#039;s clearly talking about Chin or a Chin-like hate crime), and his search for the episode&#039;s title emporium helps him deal with his anger.

When I first caught &quot;Wong&#039;s&quot; on DVD, I was stunned to find an actual show from the &#039;80s with non-stereotypical Asian American characters. I was also stunned to learn that the episode was a backdoor pilot for a &quot;Wong&#039;s&quot; TV series, which didn&#039;t get picked up, of course, because those were the days when networks would only greenlight shows with Asian leads if they involved martial arts or starred Pat Morita.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of The Twilight Zone, there&#8217;s one particular episode of the &#8217;80s CBS revival of The Twilight Zone that&#8217;s not on CBS.com but you should seek it out on DVD or the Chiller cable channel: &#8220;Wong&#8217;s Lost and Found Emporium,&#8221; an adaptation of a story by William F. Wu (<a href="http://www.williamfwu.com/tz.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.williamfwu.com/tz.html</a>). It guest-starred Brian Tochi of Police Academy fame as an Asian American who never got over Vincent Chin&#8217;s murder (which isn&#8217;t referred to directly but he&#8217;s clearly talking about Chin or a Chin-like hate crime), and his search for the episode&#8217;s title emporium helps him deal with his anger.</p>
<p>When I first caught &#8220;Wong&#8217;s&#8221; on DVD, I was stunned to find an actual show from the &#8217;80s with non-stereotypical Asian American characters. I was also stunned to learn that the episode was a backdoor pilot for a &#8220;Wong&#8217;s&#8221; TV series, which didn&#8217;t get picked up, of course, because those were the days when networks would only greenlight shows with Asian leads if they involved martial arts or starred Pat Morita.</p>
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		<title>By: jaehwan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaehwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mojo,

It&#039;s most definitely good to have a combination of youthful vigor and older experience. I just learned a bit about experience this past Fathers Day, which is what I was originally planning to blog about.  In any case, we need both, and it&#039;s great to have both!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mojo,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s most definitely good to have a combination of youthful vigor and older experience. I just learned a bit about experience this past Fathers Day, which is what I was originally planning to blog about.  In any case, we need both, and it&#8217;s great to have both!</p>
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		<title>By: mojorider</title>
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		<dc:creator>mojorider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jaehwan - ha, a dubious distinction, no doubt! yeah, i&#039;m geezing, but at least I still FEEL youthful mentally. or is that just my immaturity and juvenalia showing thru? at this point, i guess i&#039;m still young enough to sort of know what&#039;s going on, but old enough to know better!

@anna - hahahahahaha!!!! well, you&#039;ll find yourself in my position one day. i never thought that i&#039;d behave like my parents at times (and it&#039;s an eye opener when you catch yourself) but it happens. All of a sudden, you find yourself really being the chip off the old block and that every step or turn in life you take, you start realizing that your mom and dad already went thru that---be it marriage, having kids, getting downsized, etc... Having grown up on &#039;70&#039;s pop, classic rock and post punk stuff, it still cracks me up when i catch myself telling
my nephews and nieces to turn that rap or alternative music stuff down. They just roll their eyes at me just like I rolled my eyes at my parents who  yelled at me to turn my music down!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jaehwan &#8211; ha, a dubious distinction, no doubt! yeah, i&#8217;m geezing, but at least I still FEEL youthful mentally. or is that just my immaturity and juvenalia showing thru? at this point, i guess i&#8217;m still young enough to sort of know what&#8217;s going on, but old enough to know better!</p>
<p>@anna &#8211; hahahahahaha!!!! well, you&#8217;ll find yourself in my position one day. i never thought that i&#8217;d behave like my parents at times (and it&#8217;s an eye opener when you catch yourself) but it happens. All of a sudden, you find yourself really being the chip off the old block and that every step or turn in life you take, you start realizing that your mom and dad already went thru that&#8212;be it marriage, having kids, getting downsized, etc&#8230; Having grown up on &#8217;70&#8242;s pop, classic rock and post punk stuff, it still cracks me up when i catch myself telling<br />
my nephews and nieces to turn that rap or alternative music stuff down. They just roll their eyes at me just like I rolled my eyes at my parents who  yelled at me to turn my music down!</p>
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		<title>By: anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>geez...the elderly and their old fashioned books.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>geez&#8230;the elderly and their old fashioned books&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: jaehwan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaehwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MN:

None!  I read A POEM by Maya Angelou when I was in the second grade, but outside of that, Gordon Parks was the only one.  I think your school may have been more sensitive to other voices since you grew up in a nonwhite country.  I think my school was very good, but the focus just wasn&#039;t on us.  There were other classes that focused on women, but believe it or not, I don&#039;t think there were many classes that covered the minority experience.  Weird, now that I think about it.  I don&#039;t think Kingston, Hughes, or Baldwin were taught in any classes.  I know Chin wasn&#039;t.

I think things have since changed.  Last time I looked at their curriculum guide, I saw a class called &quot;World Literature.&quot;  I would guess that that probably extends beyond Europe.

OH!  Sorry, there was one more.  I read a translation of the Sound of Waves by Yukio Mishima when I was a frosh.  Great book.

Mojo:

I haven&#039;t run a poll, but my gut is telling me that you&#039;re the winner.  The second oldest regular, if MY old graying memory serves me correctly, is 42.  I have a reader who is in her fifties, but I think she only left one comment, and that was wayy back in September or October.  I have another reader in his fifties who has never left a comment.  So unless I can convince them to drop more comments, you&#039;re in the lead!

Speaking of which, maybe I should get their feedback on Holden...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MN:</p>
<p>None!  I read A POEM by Maya Angelou when I was in the second grade, but outside of that, Gordon Parks was the only one.  I think your school may have been more sensitive to other voices since you grew up in a nonwhite country.  I think my school was very good, but the focus just wasn&#8217;t on us.  There were other classes that focused on women, but believe it or not, I don&#8217;t think there were many classes that covered the minority experience.  Weird, now that I think about it.  I don&#8217;t think Kingston, Hughes, or Baldwin were taught in any classes.  I know Chin wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I think things have since changed.  Last time I looked at their curriculum guide, I saw a class called &#8220;World Literature.&#8221;  I would guess that that probably extends beyond Europe.</p>
<p>OH!  Sorry, there was one more.  I read a translation of the Sound of Waves by Yukio Mishima when I was a frosh.  Great book.</p>
<p>Mojo:</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t run a poll, but my gut is telling me that you&#8217;re the winner.  The second oldest regular, if MY old graying memory serves me correctly, is 42.  I have a reader who is in her fifties, but I think she only left one comment, and that was wayy back in September or October.  I have another reader in his fifties who has never left a comment.  So unless I can convince them to drop more comments, you&#8217;re in the lead!</p>
<p>Speaking of which, maybe I should get their feedback on Holden&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mojorider</title>
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		<dc:creator>mojorider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mT---oops, sorry for the slight! Indeed, you did come to Holden&#039;s defense at first. In my old age, I must have glossed over that fact, ha ha. I agree, it has timeless universal themes and you apparently had no problem with viewing it in its context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mT&#8212;oops, sorry for the slight! Indeed, you did come to Holden&#8217;s defense at first. In my old age, I must have glossed over that fact, ha ha. I agree, it has timeless universal themes and you apparently had no problem with viewing it in its context.</p>
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		<title>By: mT</title>
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		<dc:creator>mT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey now, I believe I was the first to come defend Catcher in the Rye.  I agree with the good points related to the book.  But I want to take this opportunity to also say, there was no &#039;back in the day&#039; for me.  I am not that old, around Byron&#039;s age unless you consider Byron an old fart full of wisdom.  I was just able to appreciate the book for what it is and think it is a timeless book with universal themes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey now, I believe I was the first to come defend Catcher in the Rye.  I agree with the good points related to the book.  But I want to take this opportunity to also say, there was no &#8216;back in the day&#8217; for me.  I am not that old, around Byron&#8217;s age unless you consider Byron an old fart full of wisdom.  I was just able to appreciate the book for what it is and think it is a timeless book with universal themes.</p>
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		<title>By: mojorider</title>
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		<dc:creator>mojorider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jaehwan - well, that&#039;s good to know, but I think I might have a few more years on people who endured the Reagan era. At the end of this summer, I&#039;ll officially be in my, uh, mid 40&#039;s and the downward side, kicking and screaming into 50 *gulp*

but you&#039;re right; there are only so many hours you can devote to the &quot;classics&quot; and I&#039;m pretty sure we never read anything by Toni Morrison or anyone else of color. It was really an ethnocentric curriculum devoted towards white westerners. Like you, I read books outside of the classroom out of intellectual curiousity.

@mama nabi - whew, glad someone else came to defend Holden! I can understand young folks today not getting Holden&#039;s anti-hero status and seeing him as a whiner. But Holden was a young teen defined by his times, but what he felt as a teenager should be universal.  Who hasn&#039;t felt lonely or depressed as a teenager? Who hasn&#039;t felt like they were an outsider and not accepted by cliques and all the popular kids at school? Who hasn&#039;t felt like they were searching for something to make them whole but they just didn&#039;t know what it was?

And yeah, Holden is a character that, while maybe precocious, has an intellectual thirst that goes beyond the vapid and superficial fads around him. I took from it that he was looking for some sort of meaning in his life that was chock full of superficial crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jaehwan &#8211; well, that&#8217;s good to know, but I think I might have a few more years on people who endured the Reagan era. At the end of this summer, I&#8217;ll officially be in my, uh, mid 40&#8242;s and the downward side, kicking and screaming into 50 *gulp*</p>
<p>but you&#8217;re right; there are only so many hours you can devote to the &#8220;classics&#8221; and I&#8217;m pretty sure we never read anything by Toni Morrison or anyone else of color. It was really an ethnocentric curriculum devoted towards white westerners. Like you, I read books outside of the classroom out of intellectual curiousity.</p>
<p>@mama nabi &#8211; whew, glad someone else came to defend Holden! I can understand young folks today not getting Holden&#8217;s anti-hero status and seeing him as a whiner. But Holden was a young teen defined by his times, but what he felt as a teenager should be universal.  Who hasn&#8217;t felt lonely or depressed as a teenager? Who hasn&#8217;t felt like they were an outsider and not accepted by cliques and all the popular kids at school? Who hasn&#8217;t felt like they were searching for something to make them whole but they just didn&#8217;t know what it was?</p>
<p>And yeah, Holden is a character that, while maybe precocious, has an intellectual thirst that goes beyond the vapid and superficial fads around him. I took from it that he was looking for some sort of meaning in his life that was chock full of superficial crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Mama Nabi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mama Nabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Byron, really?  In our school (although not in the U.S., still an American school), we were taught Maya Angelou, James Baldwin, Langston Hughes, etc., etc.  And yes, Maxine Hong Kingston.  I did TA for a great lit professor during my grad school years - he used to teach Frank Chin and Kingston back to back!  Along with the whole background story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Byron, really?  In our school (although not in the U.S., still an American school), we were taught Maya Angelou, James Baldwin, Langston Hughes, etc., etc.  And yes, Maxine Hong Kingston.  I did TA for a great lit professor during my grad school years &#8211; he used to teach Frank Chin and Kingston back to back!  Along with the whole background story.</p>
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