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	<title>Comments on: Podcast: URB4N talks about Interracial Relationships</title>
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	<description>Asian American Intellectualism, Activism, and Literature</description>
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		<title>By: The Perversity of &#8220;Human Biodiversity,&#8221; a.k.a. &#8220;Scientific&#8221; Racism &#124; bigWOWO</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2009/05/podcast-urb4n-talks-about-ir/#comment-15345</link>
		<dc:creator>The Perversity of &#8220;Human Biodiversity,&#8221; a.k.a. &#8220;Scientific&#8221; Racism &#124; bigWOWO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 04:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of HBD is a form of little man complex. Admittedly, we&#8217;ve been crushed in the whole IR marketplace&#8211;an Asian dude has to make $24k more than a White dude to be viewed as equally attractive [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of HBD is a form of little man complex. Admittedly, we&#8217;ve been crushed in the whole IR marketplace&#8211;an Asian dude has to make $24k more than a White dude to be viewed as equally attractive [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bigWOWO</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2009/05/podcast-urb4n-talks-about-ir/#comment-12872</link>
		<dc:creator>bigWOWO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 22:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an update on that Tierney blog dating thing:

http://brooks.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/31/race-and-dating/

http://muse.jhu.edu/login?uri=/journals/social_forces/v089/89.3.robnett.html

&quot;Using data from 6070 U.S. heterosexual internet dating profiles, this study examines how racial and gender exclusions are revealed in the preferences of black, Latino, Asian and white online daters. Consistent with social exchange and group positions theories, the study finds that whites are least open to out-dating and that, unlike blacks, Asians and Latinos have patterns of racial exclusion similar to those of whites. Like blacks, higher earning groups including Asian Indians, Middle Easterners and Asian men are highly excluded, suggesting that economic incorporation may not mirror acceptance in intimate settings. Finally, racial exclusion in dating is gendered; Asian males and black females are more highly excluded than their opposite-sex counterparts, suggesting that existing theories of race relations need to be expanded to account for gendered racial acceptance.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an update on that Tierney blog dating thing:</p>
<p><a href="http://brooks.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/31/race-and-dating/" rel="nofollow">http://brooks.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/31/race-and-dating/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://muse.jhu.edu/login?uri=/journals/social_forces/v089/89.3.robnett.html" rel="nofollow">http://muse.jhu.edu/login?uri=/journals/social_forces/v089/89.3.robnett.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Using data from 6070 U.S. heterosexual internet dating profiles, this study examines how racial and gender exclusions are revealed in the preferences of black, Latino, Asian and white online daters. Consistent with social exchange and group positions theories, the study finds that whites are least open to out-dating and that, unlike blacks, Asians and Latinos have patterns of racial exclusion similar to those of whites. Like blacks, higher earning groups including Asian Indians, Middle Easterners and Asian men are highly excluded, suggesting that economic incorporation may not mirror acceptance in intimate settings. Finally, racial exclusion in dating is gendered; Asian males and black females are more highly excluded than their opposite-sex counterparts, suggesting that existing theories of race relations need to be expanded to account for gendered racial acceptance.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: No House, No Date! &#124; bigWOWO</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2009/05/podcast-urb4n-talks-about-ir/#comment-10645</link>
		<dc:creator>No House, No Date! &#124; bigWOWO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 18:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have a subscription.  Man, that environment has gotta be BRUTAL.  Maybe even as brutal as the $24k bracket that Asian guys in this country [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have a subscription.  Man, that environment has gotta be BRUTAL.  Maybe even as brutal as the $24k bracket that Asian guys in this country [...]</p>
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		<title>By: etain</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2009/05/podcast-urb4n-talks-about-ir/#comment-6106</link>
		<dc:creator>etain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I meant that there were 24,000 more marriages involving Asian women than Asian men in 2008.

And I still think that&#039;s a startling number.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I meant that there were 24,000 more marriages involving Asian women than Asian men in 2008.</p>
<p>And I still think that&#8217;s a startling number.</p>
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		<title>By: MojoRider</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2009/05/podcast-urb4n-talks-about-ir/#comment-6075</link>
		<dc:creator>MojoRider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jstele wrote: 

&quot;Just date who you want. Who cares if there are more Asian women dating outside their race than Asian men? As long as you date who you want, that’s all that matters. &quot;

Who says that AA guys get to date whomever they want?  

&quot; I just think you’re making the problem bigger in your mind. Who cares what the media says?&quot; 

So you&#039;re okay with Hollywood&#039;s constant stereotyping of AM&#039;s as asexual and even effeminate geeks, and AF&#039;s get to be portrayed as exotic submissive sexual creatures to cater to white men&#039;s fantasies? You really don&#039;t think public misperceptions create consequences for AA&#039;s? 

&quot; I think blaming others for low confidence is just weak. God helps those who help themselves. If you are not willing to work on yourself first, then no one can help you. Just sitting around complaining is not going to help anyone. It’s just a victim mentality. If there are Asian women who diss you, then forget them. Focus on solutions.&quot;

I agree in part. But perhaps you could be a little more sensitive to those who&#039;ve felt the sting of rejection time and time again and maybe haven&#039;t had such a fulfilling life or great experiences like you have. I get what you&#039;re saying; it&#039;s just that I&#039;m not sure I agree with the exasperated tone you have. Your admonitions to &quot;find solutions&quot; seem a little simplistic and a little dismissive of some social factors that do hamper progress. Much akin to rich people thinking that people mired in poverty need to just stop being poor and just find a job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jstele wrote: </p>
<p>&#8220;Just date who you want. Who cares if there are more Asian women dating outside their race than Asian men? As long as you date who you want, that’s all that matters. &#8221;</p>
<p>Who says that AA guys get to date whomever they want?  </p>
<p>&#8221; I just think you’re making the problem bigger in your mind. Who cares what the media says?&#8221; </p>
<p>So you&#8217;re okay with Hollywood&#8217;s constant stereotyping of AM&#8217;s as asexual and even effeminate geeks, and AF&#8217;s get to be portrayed as exotic submissive sexual creatures to cater to white men&#8217;s fantasies? You really don&#8217;t think public misperceptions create consequences for AA&#8217;s? </p>
<p>&#8221; I think blaming others for low confidence is just weak. God helps those who help themselves. If you are not willing to work on yourself first, then no one can help you. Just sitting around complaining is not going to help anyone. It’s just a victim mentality. If there are Asian women who diss you, then forget them. Focus on solutions.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree in part. But perhaps you could be a little more sensitive to those who&#8217;ve felt the sting of rejection time and time again and maybe haven&#8217;t had such a fulfilling life or great experiences like you have. I get what you&#8217;re saying; it&#8217;s just that I&#8217;m not sure I agree with the exasperated tone you have. Your admonitions to &#8220;find solutions&#8221; seem a little simplistic and a little dismissive of some social factors that do hamper progress. Much akin to rich people thinking that people mired in poverty need to just stop being poor and just find a job.</p>
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		<title>By: uRB4N</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2009/05/podcast-urb4n-talks-about-ir/#comment-6073</link>
		<dc:creator>uRB4N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Jesus.

Use some deductive reasoning for crying out loud.  He obviously means 24,000 more Asian women than Asian men, not 24,000 times more.  

Looks like Nitpick has made it back into the house.

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/nitpick.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Jesus.</p>
<p>Use some deductive reasoning for crying out loud.  He obviously means 24,000 more Asian women than Asian men, not 24,000 times more.  </p>
<p>Looks like Nitpick has made it back into the house.</p>
<p><a href="http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/nitpick.htm" rel="nofollow">http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/nitpick.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: jstele</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2009/05/podcast-urb4n-talks-about-ir/#comment-6067</link>
		<dc:creator>jstele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 03:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Etain,

&quot;Out of 186,000 marriages in 2008 including a least one Asian person, Asian women married 24,000 times more than Asian men.&quot;

How does that make sense? 24,000 times more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Etain,</p>
<p>&#8220;Out of 186,000 marriages in 2008 including a least one Asian person, Asian women married 24,000 times more than Asian men.&#8221;</p>
<p>How does that make sense? 24,000 times more?</p>
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		<title>By: etain</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2009/05/podcast-urb4n-talks-about-ir/#comment-6064</link>
		<dc:creator>etain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 23:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need to harp on this a little bit, just because it took some work to uncover and I do think it&#039;s important.

Out of 186,000 marriages in 2008 including a least one Asian person, Asian women married 24,000 times more than Asian men. I mean holy shit! That&#039;s a spectacular disparity, and it&#039;s growing!

We keep talking about an IR disparity, but really an IR disparity means a marriage disparity period (since anything not interracial is intraracial). There&#039;s simply a lot of unmarried Asian men out there compared to Asian women, and that&#039;s really disheartening.

And of course, this is just marriage. If we include dating, I bet the disparity grows. If anyone has the courage/resources, I&#039;d be interested to see what a random survey of 1000 Asian women and 1000 Asian men would produce if asked just one question, &quot;Are you single?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need to harp on this a little bit, just because it took some work to uncover and I do think it&#8217;s important.</p>
<p>Out of 186,000 marriages in 2008 including a least one Asian person, Asian women married 24,000 times more than Asian men. I mean holy shit! That&#8217;s a spectacular disparity, and it&#8217;s growing!</p>
<p>We keep talking about an IR disparity, but really an IR disparity means a marriage disparity period (since anything not interracial is intraracial). There&#8217;s simply a lot of unmarried Asian men out there compared to Asian women, and that&#8217;s really disheartening.</p>
<p>And of course, this is just marriage. If we include dating, I bet the disparity grows. If anyone has the courage/resources, I&#8217;d be interested to see what a random survey of 1000 Asian women and 1000 Asian men would produce if asked just one question, &#8220;Are you single?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jaehwan</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2009/05/podcast-urb4n-talks-about-ir/#comment-6057</link>
		<dc:creator>jaehwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 06:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have that chart on page 35 too, but again, it doesn&#039;t say anything about what they&#039;re talking about.  In fact, this one says &quot;race/ethnicity,&quot; which could support my theory.  Or maybe not.  It&#039;s not clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have that chart on page 35 too, but again, it doesn&#8217;t say anything about what they&#8217;re talking about.  In fact, this one says &#8220;race/ethnicity,&#8221; which could support my theory.  Or maybe not.  It&#8217;s not clear.</p>
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		<title>By: jaehwan</title>
		<link>http://www.bigwowo.com/2009/05/podcast-urb4n-talks-about-ir/#comment-6055</link>
		<dc:creator>jaehwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 06:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stele:

&quot;No. It was broken down by race.&quot;

Nope; it&#039;s not.  This is why urb4n is accusing you of obfuscating.  I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s intentional, but urb4n is correct.  If you&#039;re going to make statements, you need to link them or point them out.  

I&#039;ve only been talking about the native born Asian Americans; that&#039;s clear from the entire discussion.  I&#039;m not disputing anything in the findings other than that the &lt;i&gt;possible&lt;/i&gt; claim that the rates native born Asian American female interracial relationships and native born Asian American male interracial relationships are near parity.  And this is your claim, not necessarily the claim of the study--all the study says is that these are rates of &quot;intermarriage;&quot; it doesn&#039;t define the term.

All they have is a chart on page 36.  Nothing is broken down by race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stele:</p>
<p>&#8220;No. It was broken down by race.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nope; it&#8217;s not.  This is why urb4n is accusing you of obfuscating.  I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s intentional, but urb4n is correct.  If you&#8217;re going to make statements, you need to link them or point them out.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only been talking about the native born Asian Americans; that&#8217;s clear from the entire discussion.  I&#8217;m not disputing anything in the findings other than that the <i>possible</i> claim that the rates native born Asian American female interracial relationships and native born Asian American male interracial relationships are near parity.  And this is your claim, not necessarily the claim of the study&#8211;all the study says is that these are rates of &#8220;intermarriage;&#8221; it doesn&#8217;t define the term.</p>
<p>All they have is a chart on page 36.  Nothing is broken down by race.</p>
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