It reminds me a lot of the “extra pair copulator” that I described in Alphas vs. Betas. PUA teaches guys to sneak in the back like an EPC.

Has anyone read “The Game?” I think this is the point that Tom Cruise was trying to make to the author. If they spent more time actually working on becoming better people rather than pretending to be better people, they’d be a lot happier.

That really is the heart of the hypocrisy:

Seeking an aware and fair-minded girl who will not judge me based on the false image of me as seen on TV and the movies.

P.S.
Please don’t answer this add if you don’t look like the girls on TV or the movies.

I may blog about that manipulation/perception thing later. It came up on the Alpha vs. Beta blog post:

http://www.bigwowo.com/2009/11/alphas-vs-betas/#comment-12952

It’s an old sales concept, but I think there’s a line between “fake it until you make it” and just plain “fake it.”

If you want acceptance, then accept others… don;t act better than the average girl, when you are the average guy – and most PUA’s are the average guy – or worse — yet they get brainwashed that only a sexy, hot babe who puts up with him flirting and ‘connecting’ with others is the way to go – and if she complains, just neg her or show her you can leave anytime.. oh yeah, that doe snot breed insecurity in a woman.

PUA types are the reasons women do not trust men and their intentions… they may flirt with or hook up with the ‘alpha male’ – but they end up marrying the beta males — the ones that will not hurt them, that respect them and do not manipulate.

I wish someone would write a book and promote it nationally and internationally – on the real issues with PUA – maybe less men would believe its their answer and less women would be hurt by it.

The concept of a “lay report” is not supposed to be to brag about how you managed to manipulate some woman into sleeping with you, rather to illustrate for other readers what the poster did right, and what they did wrong in the interaction. The idea that pickup is a horrible pursuit and should be shunned by all is about as accurate a statement as saying “Guns are extremely dangerous and exist only to kill!” While true, some would use a gun to commit murder and crimes, others would use it as a deterrent, or as a means to protect their homes and loved ones.

So it is with pickup, some come to it as a means to “get laid” but many others come to it because their social radar is – for lack of a better term – Broken.

The information I have studied teaches a man how to present himself to a woman so that he is more in line with what she may want. How to ensure that he can at least convey to her who he is, before she decides to turn away from him. The idea that a man can approach a woman in a bar or nightclub – or library or grocery store for that matter – and simply say “Hi! My name’s Bob. I’m a wonderful guy who has a great sense of humor and a passion for cooking! Can I get your phone number so we can go out some time?” simply does not work. Maybe in writing it sounds ok, but let’s presume for a moment that our pal bob is 40 pounds overweight, or that he has a problem expressing himself. Let’s say that he says the above mumbled under his breath while looking at the floor. Still think it might allow Bob to get a date?

The simple fact is a LOT of guys out there honestly have no idea how to communicate with women. Their body language is poor, they get tongue tied and confused and misspeak, or refuse to even approach a woman they may be interested in because they’re too intimidated. The Pick-up information I have been exposed to instead teaches a man how he can improve himself, to honestly consider what he wants from a woman, to consider what he’s passionate about in his personal life and then how to present that information so that it’s attractive to a woman he may like and to then decide if she fills the definition he has created about the kind of person he thinks he wants to be with, to understand WHY the scripted lines and routines that exist out there work, and to create his own based on who he is and what he’s experienced in his life, in short, how to be a better man, and how to convey that to a woman regardless to his race, body type or financial standing, and regardless of who the woman is.

It seems as though you’ve had a very bad exposure to the world of pickup, or maybe I’ve just had a very good one? I don’t know, but please don’t pass judgement on something that has indeed helped many men become their better selves, and helped many women meet a great guy who they might not have met otherwise.

In closing, I’d offer proof from mystery when discussing pickup and one night stands (I paraphrase):

“A lot of guys get into this because they think they want one night stands, but what if the girl was a 10? what if she was an incredible person? Wouldn’t you want to keep her in your life? make her a girlfriend or more? If all you’re after is one night stands, then I say raise your fu*king standards man.”