I wanted to post this story, which I found on Dooce.com. It’s a very touching story about an old woman’s taxi ride. Here’s part of the story:
For the next two hours, we drove through the city. She showed me the building where she had once worked as an elevator operator. We drove through the neighborhood where she and her husband had lived when they were newlyweds. She had me pull up in front of a furniture warehouse that had once been a ballroom where she had gone dancing as a girl. Sometimes she’d ask me to slow in front of a particular building or corner and would sit staring into the darkness, saying nothing.
I found this story interesting for two reasons, one personal and one WOWO-ish (my new word for describing things that are relevant to the discussions we have on big WOWO). On a personal level, I loved the storytelling. I was touched by the fact that this woman had these long experiences that defined what seemed to me, even from the short snippet we got, an extraordinary life. It’s these experiences that make life worthwhile.
On the activist side…and this mirrors our WOWO PUA discussions that I’m having with BetterAsianMan William–it’s this beauty of human frailty and love that we miss when we’re part of a system that dehumanizes or objectifies women. In human interactions, we’re at our best when we teach and learn from one another, rather than when we manipulate others with techniques like negs that not only prevent us from being ourselves, but also prevent others from showing themselves. How much “better” we would be if we concentrated on joining humanity rather than learning to work it.
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Jaehwan,
I agree with you completely here. The lessons that I learned from the ABCs of Attraction bootcamp– lessons which I implement every single day of my life since then– have allowed me to truly experience romantic love, and I have never had to dehumanize women, objectify women, manipulate women, “neg” women, stop being myself, or prevent a woman from showing herself to me. Not one single item on that list is taught by the ABCs of Attraction curriculum.
Negs, in particular, were first introduced by the “Mystery Method,” which is actually the alternative to the ABCs of Attraction that you recommended at this link. I have never recommended any such course of action.
I also agree with you that it is MUCH better to join humanity rather than learning how to work it. This “joining” of humanity that you speak of is precisely what the ABCs of Attraction has taught me to do.
-William
William,
I didn’t recommend mystery; I just proposed an alternative. I actually have no idea what the differences are between ABC and mystery since I’ve never taken an bootcamp from either.
Now let me first start by saying that the way certain “activists” have treated you is wrong. Some people have been dismissive and relied on personal attacks rather than listening to you or arguing logic. I’ll say right here that I disagree with that approach. I condemn that approach.
That being said, however, there is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between what you describe above about ABC’s of Attraction and the language/ideas/misogyny that your sensei espouses on his website with posts like this and this. I think the question on everyone’s mind is how you are promoting JT while ignoring the fact that his site contradicts the nice things you are saying about his course and the respect you personally have for women. I think this is the same question as the one Jin proposed here.
By the way, if this is a podcast debate, I’m ready. But maybe it may make sense for us to see your response to the question before discussing.
Jaehwan,
I’m glad you asked that. I am currently writing up an answer for you, and I intend to post it on my website before we start the conference call in 15 minutes.
I am very appreciative of you for being so bold as to continue this conversation with me and moving this topic forward. No one has ever done this before.
-William
Jaehwan,
I promote the ABCs of Attraction because their curriculum has taught me how to finally find something that is so precious because I never had it for the first 29 years of my life: the ability to seek and enjoy fulfilling romance with a woman. For this reason, I whole heartedly support the lessons taught in the ABCs of Attraction curriculum. I also acknowledge that the marketing verbiage on the ABCs of Attraction website is interpreted as offensive by many women. If anyone would like to start an online petition indicating why this is the case, I would certainly sign it because I understand why women would find much of the marketing verbiage offensive. If I were to run a website advertising myself as a dating coach I would exclude any such verbiage. That’s why you don’t see any of it on betterasianman.com
-William