One reason why I am having this ongoing conversation with Byron is because he is the only man who is naturally good with women who seeks to understand me, a man who has never been naturally good with women. I feel that some benefit can come out of my ongoing dialogue with him.

I’m glad you like the content of the betterasianman.com podcast, and thanks for your support.

-William

Check out my new piece here. Which school are you?

In all fairness to them, I don’t think anyone explicitly said that it “teaches men to harm women.” I think some of them said that it teaches men to objectify women, which…it does.

Okay, I guess this is a discussion for the podcast too.

Looking forward to seeing your essays!

Yes, that makes perfect sense, but if they’re not willing to take the offer, then they should retract statements like “the ABCs of Attraction teaches men to harm women.” ‘cuz really, until they attend a bootcamp, they just don’t know, and they shouldn’t pretend that they do

-William

For me personally, if you had one in Portland, I personally would attend. Set up a time with me, have one in Portland…I’ll be there. Promise.

But that’s just me personally. Most people aren’t going to want to hang out with you unless they know more about you. Some of the women of the 44s, for example, don’t like you enough to hang out with you. They may (or may not) be interested in seeing how your PUA is activist in nature, and if you want to communicate it, you’ll have to convey it in words. That’s the bottom line. YOU have to make the sale before they’ll look more into it. You can’t propose they fly to New York, and then accuse them of evasiveness if they don’t show–the cost is just too high for them, and most of them don’t have the level of interest that you and I do.

This is the way it is with everything. It’s life. I could be the best, for example, financial planner in the world, but for me to say, “Just try me out” isn’t enough. If I’m in sales or leadership, I have to be the one to sell it before asking people to go through with it. I have to tell the story in words.

Does this make sense?

Well, if flying out to New York City is no good, then you let me know which city I need to go to, and I’ll run a bootcamp there and then this won’t be a problem.

The main reason why I offered to pay a few hundred dollars to bring someone over here was to provide a way for people to make judgments about the program based on an actual knowledge of the contents of the program, rather than by making criticisms of the program from a place of not really knowing what is contained in it. You can tell me that I’m making an awkward offer, you can say that my offer is “bad” because it’ll cost you more than it costs me, and you can tell me that I’m suspicious. I’m sure you could come up with plenty of other reasons to not attend a bootcamp, even if I held one in your home city. But until you attend one, you can’t say that you know what is actually taught. We can come to a close approximation of that by talking about it on the podcast, so for now, or until you can attend a bootcamp, that will have to do.

-William

I appended a small edit to the post above, contingent on our next podcast. Looking forward to it!

Just a few things:

Mystery was not my original teacher; he was the Asian Playboy’s original teacher.

I know–that’s what Sigung means! Cantonese Power, man! So if I studied under a guy who studied under Yip Man, Yip Man would be my Sigung. I don’t know if it applies if it’s considered a different system, but you get what I’m saying. You’re two generations removed from Mystery.

You asked, “Does it make sense that some women view your method as suspicious?” Actually, it doesn’t make sense to me, considering that I offered to pay for their airline ticket and 3-nights of hostel expenses for them to come to the next bootcamp and observe the curriculum for themselves.

You said, “It’s suspicious because there isn’t full disclosure, and people feel that adherents are being evasive.” However, by putting my money where my mouth is, and offering to pay for 100% of a person’s travel expenses, is actually not evasive, but quite the opposite.

I know you’re not trying to be evasive, but telling people that they have to fly out to NYC and spend three days straight with you and a bunch of guys isn’t exactly cost-free for most people. It’s almost like saying that they have to pay in order to get an answer out of you. I could use myself as an example–if you had made that offer to me, I wouldn’t be able to afford to take three days away from my family and job, even if you paid for my trip. It’s a big expense on your side, but it would be a greater expense on my side.

Plus, there’s the gender thing. As King4aDay says here (#38):

What worries me slightly is that this awkward offer is being extended by the very fellow who is teaching the course on how to better understand women! I may be wrong, but the way that you have couched this “offer of proof” demonstrates to me a very fundamental misunderstanding of how women are likely to react to certain male advances.

I probably wouldn’t be that harsh, but King is right. It would be like saying, “Go out with me, you’ll never know if I’m a great guy until you actually experience time with me.” Why would a girl do that? It’s suspicious; most are probably thinking, “I asked a simple question about his methods, and he wants me to fly all the way out to NY in order to get the answer? Why can’t he just tell me? Unless that PUA is hidin’ something…”

I can understand you asking for a woman to call into your podcast. That’s reasonable, and it’s wrong of them to call you names and attack your character. As Joe Biden says, “Say it to me!” But phone calls are quick and free. Flying and staying at a youth hostel aren’t.

I’ll call you up to set up a time when we can talk about it. I also need to find out from the Asian Playboy if it’s ok for me to go into specifics without him on the phone. If that is not ok, then I’m going to drag his ass into the conversation and you can ask him yourself.

Sounds like a plan! I actually am thinking right now about an interesting question: “What constitutes a “new” system as opposed to a modified system?

One more thing: You are 100% correct in saying that most of the terminology you see on the ABCs of Attraction forums, as well as on the Asian Playboy blog was originally invented by Mystery. Some examples are:

1. neg
2. 2-set
3. HB
4. amog

However, the actual ABCs of Attraction method was not created by Mystery. But, we’ll talk about that on an upcoming podcast

-William